r/911archive • u/JJandeRR • Aug 15 '23
Other Old news-clip about "4 Dancing Israelis". Just posted this because saw some people asking what the whole thing was.
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u/CeilingUnlimited Aug 15 '23
So they were celebrating in hopes that America would now attack Israel's enemies. Turns out, they were right.
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u/Eastern_Strength984 Oct 01 '24
Because they were mossad. The mossad had prior knowledge of the attacks and they even warned the us state department of the attacks one month beforehand. This was disclosed in a 2004 memo to the senate select committee on intelligence and the house permanent select committee on intelligence.
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u/Electronic_Belt_2535 Nov 28 '24
Yeah, the intelligence agencies were clearly aware of various plots, just hard to tell which ones matter. Your post just supports that Israel was on our side and acting how we'd expect of our greatest ally.
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u/Ike_on_the_mic Feb 04 '25
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA How is tel Aviv this time of year? No one talks like this unless they are trying to craft a narrative. Tell me, why is Israel our "greatest ally" when they have killed American citizens on purpose on more than one occasion? I guess fuck britain then, whos soldiers died with ours on multiple occasions. I just can't with you
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u/123ersan Jul 27 '26
A normal human reaction after witnessing such horrors wouldn’t be to dance or celebrate….
Maybe if you are Jewish that is normal but not if you’re a human being first1
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u/Mysterious-Memory996 Apr 13 '24
“Celebrating and giving each other hi-fives over the 9/11 attacks” who needs enemies when you have a friend like Israel
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u/yebwulebdullah Oct 24 '24
So ya’ll gonna sit and and act that it’s not incredibly disturbing and wildly suspicious for ANYONE regardless of ethnicity to be dancing in front of a terrorist attack?
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u/Less-Connection-9830 Nov 13 '25
Well, I'm neither antisimitic or Islamophobic... but let's be realistic, there's definitely something very off with someone dancing in front of such a horrible attack. I would bet they knew about it. Odd, how they were at a place where the skyline could be seen. Too many coincidences.
There was some big money in all of it!
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u/Own-Candle-6437 10h ago
They weren’t dancing though. Even the woman reported them said nobody was dancing. She just found them “suspicious”. She gave an interview about it.
The “dancing” quote came from Mohammed Atta’s father while he was trying to divert attention away from his son’s actions.
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u/Studying_September Aug 15 '23
Absolutely. As a middle eastern muslim so many people got flung so much shit their way due to profiling and also due to the conspiracies that would come out of these attacks. There seems to be a lot of denial of this and arguing that we were unified, but it wasn't the truth at all. There was fearmongering about dancing Palestinians too and a lot of blame thrown their way even though they had nothing to do with the attacks.
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u/AML1987 Aug 15 '23
The unity was nice if you looked like me. The hate was horrible if you didn’t.
I’m sorry I was ever apart of any of that group think BS.
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u/BasketOfBaskets Nov 14 '23
This happened the morning of 9/11 nobody knew it had anything to do with Islamic terrorists yet the crazy anti Muslim wave didn’t start yet. Also these guys were Israelis and didn’t look Arab at all.
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u/Gingerpizzflapz Aug 16 '23
Has time changed for Muslims in America or is there still a lot of this going on?
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u/Future-Water9035 Aug 16 '23
I think it's less bad for Muslims now. Americans have really learned how to spread the hate around, so it's not so focused on Muslims anymore.
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u/LTS55 Aug 19 '23
Truly the land of the free. Come to America and we’ll hate you for your religion and ethnicity, regardless of what that may be.
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u/Studying_September Aug 16 '23 edited Aug 16 '23
It's not as dangerous as it was back in 2001 but its's never gone back down to pre 9/11 levels. Fear mongering about Syrian refugees back in the 2010's resparked fears about middle easterners and Muslims for a while. But currently I'd say it's probably the least bad it's been since pre 9/11, but still worse than it was then. There's still a lot of hatred and fear about middle easterners and Muslims which still to this day remains largely ignored and under discussed even in regards to people and groups that otherwise advocate for marginalized people in this country , but I feel like some of the bigger targets currently are black people, trans/non-binary people, and Jewish people. But muslims and middle easterners are still seen with fear and contempt to this day in the USA and that probably will not end up dying down during our lifetimes.
Things are much worse for people currently in the Middle East (especially the Levant, Iran, and Iraq) due to decades of corruption and the consequences of imperialism and colonialism, middle easterners and muslims in Europe are also much higher targets of bigotry currently (the closest comparision that comes to mind would be how Latinos are treated and seen in the USA although it's not exactly that) with middle easterners/north africans and Muslims especially being treated horribly in France and Poland, and certain muslim minority groups such Uyghurs in China dealing with an ongoing bigotry, human rights violations, and even genocide.
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u/sydsydsydsydsydcid Apr 07 '25
My uncle from Kuwait got swept into the profiling and he was detained too, in fkn Utah. If I remember correct, our local newspaper even did an article on his treatment. I was a second grader. It rubbed me the wrong way completely. So from day 1 I've always been stink face when someone tries to tell me to hate Arabs.
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u/Nearby-Film-8408 Apr 08 '25
Well then don't belong to a religion that hates others!!!!Right back at you!!!You all talk about Christians, but you sure do want to be in OUR country that WE built...
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u/Massrelay665 Aug 16 '23
I think it's a stretch to say these men were unfairly detained due to their ethnicity. They had ties to Mossad and had Mossad was operating in the US, essentially spying, without announcing such to our intelligence apparatus. Albeit, this was the soon to be patriot act Era.
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u/AML1987 Aug 16 '23
Well this clip showed a lady calling them in for how they looked and acted.
Don’t know how old you are but there was a lot of rumors about people at the time. It was the Wild West where you could point to anyone that was foreign or darker skinned and claim terrorism. So I don’t think it’s a stretch in the least.
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u/Massrelay665 Aug 16 '23
Yeah I'm not denying that, I'm old enough to remember the prejudice and malice aimed towards darker folk. My point is they did conclude they had mossad ties and that was probably the reason for the detainment they had. We can't determine if racism played a part or not, but we do know they had intelligence ties so any conjecture towards they being detained for being brown seems a bit pointless.
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Apr 19 '24
The FBI doesn’t hold a group of individuals for months because an old lady doesn’t like the way they “look”.
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u/Careful_Huckleberry Apr 03 '25
"how they looked and acted."
he said referring to them dancing on their van in front of the burning twin towers, implying it to be of no concern.2
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u/Gullible_Positive800 Apr 14 '25
True and that act would encumber US citizens not those who were not. The inflow of illegals under Biden the puppet should convince even the most hardened skeptic of that fact. US citizens have to have visas and stop at check points , but illegals are escorted in. The patriot act was already written and planned it just needed a terrorist attack to put in in place with the sheeple's approval.
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u/8nt2L8 Sep 12 '23
James Corbett's video investigation will give you quite a bit of info.
https://www.corbettreport.com/911-suspects-dancing-israelis/1
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u/yutrice Sep 06 '24
Are you deaf?
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u/AML1987 Sep 09 '24
Huh?
I cannot for the life of me figure out what I said that would lead to that question.
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u/Shorouq2911 Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
Israelis aren't middle eastern and they do look like you in the mirror
these men spent that long in jail
oh really? you call couple months "long"? Well, the real middle easterns spent 23+ years and counting in American jails and they weren't dancing and taking selfies and high-fives in front of the towers and they weren't Mossad agents. If these men were real Middle Eastern, they would have been sent to Guantanamo without trail, tortured and raped to death and if survived, they would have still been in jail today.
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u/AML1987 Sep 16 '24
Um ok? Not sure at all what you’re saying here.
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u/Shorouq2911 Sep 16 '24
I'm saying that it is because they are Israelis and white that they were sent back to their country real fast. If they were Arabs, they would have been sent to Guantanamo.
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u/AML1987 Sep 16 '24
I never mentioned Israelis in my comment? You completely edited your first comment to info dump on me so now I’m really confused.
Look this was from a year ago and I barely remember the conversation. You’re coming off extremely aggressive and I’m not sure what I said or did to deserve it.
You’re getting mad because of my use of the term “long” when I guess I should’ve said “some period of time”.
I think it’s a good idea if you check yourself before you just plop in on a year old comment acting like I am some sort of racist xenophobe when my comment says I blame my own youth and ignorance. You’re obviously very, very triggered on whatever topic you seem to think I’m disagreeing with you about so I’m trying not to get testy with you. But my patience is wearing thin.
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u/JG5290 Nov 11 '25
I know this is an old comment, but they were jailed that long because they were Israeli and we already had issues with Mossad. We also had/have a problem with affectively blaming Israel because of the ADL, AIPAC and Israel’s pro-Zionist propaganda and overall domain over the narrative. They own the media quite literally. So no they were not jailed that long because they were brown. . . But like also there was a 5 year art program that took place in the towers where the students had complete freedom to sleep and move about 24/7. And in 1998 a man named Moukhtar Kokache took over the project at the LMCC hired a group called Gelatin to lead it and in his own words the students then began to be selected by a Jewry. Whereas before he (Moukhtar) took over the students were selected by Graham Nickson and were from his school the New York Studio School. Moukhtar is still alive and has never been questioned on these things.
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u/Cold-Recording-1606 Oct 15 '24
I've seen the video in Instagram reels where those monsters were dancing i can't find it anymore.But i'm sure as hell that Shitrael did 9/11.
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u/x9xcostax9x Feb 17 '26
ive seen the fucking video, it does exist. i swear they have removed it from the face of the internet
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u/Ballinwithascale Mar 03 '26
i’m in the same boat, let me know if you do find it, i’ve deep searched far and i think this is gonna have to be a .onion source now
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u/DrWisdomTooth Jun 23 '26
The video exist is on the internet somewhere you can see them jumping on their van somehow they managed to delete almost all of it the woman that recorded it even did an interview also the Palestine celebration was bullshit it was people celebrating and no mention of the USA
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u/ButterscotchLife3302 23d ago
Because you can't find what doesn't exist..the photos(that's all thier was) were altered and that's well proven in the thousand page(downloadable) fbi report into it. There was also no mossad links as some claim..only one had distant ties but was definitely not a mossad agent.
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u/Music4thesoul10 Sep 14 '25
Obviously, it's never been released. BUT the black and white photos have been released after a freedom of information request. This is a strong statement, BUT the man who knows the most on this subject is a man named ryan dawson. On october 7th, head on over to his twitter for the release of his doc. This is a revised doc. You can google it.
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u/Pepsi_Boy_64 Jan 01 '25
And somehow people believe Israel was responsible for 9/11 because of this video.
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u/EnlightenedRedditor_ Mar 30 '25
Directly responsible? No? Possibly knew and decided to omit/hide details from American Intelligence, as MOSSAD had an intricate network of spy rings across the Middle East, so that it could guarantee U.S. involvement against Israel’s enemies? Oy vey.
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u/Pepsi_Boy_64 Mar 31 '25
So do they believe Israel did it because 5 men are dancing around?
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u/Charming-Clue2194 Nov 19 '25
These men weren't just dancing. According to the official police report, the men arrived just an hour before the attack at a private parking lot where they had no business being there. (they didn't live there nor were they there for work) The men were tested with forensic equipment and trace explosive material were found in their van. The company that they claimed to work for was abandoned the day of the attack.
These evidence point to something, and I don't know what it is, but it's more suspicious that the FBI decided not to investigate it and sent them back to Israel, amirite?
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u/SirRoarzAlot Feb 20 '26
Five men that were celebrating on top of the van coincidentally the same time as the attacks happened, found with thousands of dollars, multiple passports, and weapons? Dude be so deadass and tell me you’re just undercover Mossad lmfao that’s like looking for a murderer to a crime scene when you got someone standing right above the body with a bloody knife
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u/Roxy_Face Mar 15 '26
Nice try bot/agent.
"These men weren't just dancing. According to the official police report, the men arrived just an hour before the attack at a private parking lot where they had no business being there. (they didn't live there nor were they there for work) The men were tested with forensic equipment and trace explosive material were found in their van. The company that they claimed to work for was abandoned the day of the attack.
These evidence point to something, and I don't know what it is, but it's more suspicious that the FBI decided not to investigate it and sent them back to Israel, amirite?"
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u/AML1987 Mar 25 '25
Mods: can we get rid of this person? Commenting all over this claiming Israel orchestrated 9/11.
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Aug 15 '23
This is was the beginning of what was to come. To antisemitism and anti Muslim fear.
Same thing what happened in Pearl Harbor after the attacks.
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u/Massrelay665 Aug 16 '23
I never seen much anti-semitic rhetoric post 9/11. If anything we had stronger ties to Israel during the Bush /Obama Era. The IRAF helped in our initial invasion of Iraq. Seems the anti-semitic stuff ticked up after Charlottesville.
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u/BibslyBogman Sep 21 '23
Well you’re either naive or being purposefully obtuse because “The Jews did 9/11” was the most quoted phrase in America after “Bush did it”
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u/Gold_Emergency_7289 Oct 20 '23
Most of those came later way later. Seeing how nasty Israel can be, best we cut ties
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u/Scary-Cobbler4175 Jul 25 '26
The invasion of iraq was for israel. 15/19 9/11 hijackers came from saudi arabia. The masterminds khalid and osama were both pakistani nationals. Not a singular terrorist came from afghanistan or iraq. Neither afghanistan or iraq had ANYTHING to do with 9/11
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u/HonchoLoco69 Aug 15 '23
Crazy how conspiracy theorists will ignore the mountains of evidence that supports the official story. but will take a look at some badly rendered black and white copy’s of 4 Israeli dudes and go “they must’ve had something to do with it”.
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u/JJandeRR Aug 15 '23
Who said they had anything to do with it on this sub?
For the last time, some people were asking what is the whole concept of "Dancing israelis", so I posted this old news story.
Suddenly I seem to be an anti-semitic nutjob
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u/HonchoLoco69 Aug 15 '23
I didn’t call you anything. I just think the state of internet is very geared toward hateful conspiracies with no evidence. Just wanted to add a different perspective
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u/JJandeRR Aug 15 '23
Okay got it.
This post has just been labeled as an anti-semitic act of violence almost it seems by some people.
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u/Massrelay665 Aug 16 '23
Yeah, ignore those water heads. This is an important part of the 9/11 ethos and it's not conspiratorial to post on public info. These guys were Mossad operating in the US doing shady shit.
We've still yet to untie what Mossad knew about the Saudi involvement in 9-11, and that's not being a conspiratorial nut job.
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u/Warhorse07 Nov 25 '25
Who said they had anything to do with it on this sub?
I know this post is 2 years old, but just look at this comment section. It's full of "Israel dun it" conspiratards.
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u/cynicalxidealist 911archive MOD Team Aug 15 '23
Isn’t it great that now the antisemitic conspiracy nuts can post this as a platform? /s
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u/Eastern_Strength984 Oct 01 '24
Crazy how a 2004 memo to the senate select committee on intelligence and the house permanent select committee on intelligence disclosed the deportation of over 100 operating mossad agents from 2000-01 including the dancing israelis arrested in NJ. And how the mossad had been surveilling the hijackers in Hollywood Florida, and even warned the state department of the attacks one month beforehand without providing any actionable intelligence to actually prevent the attacks. Not to mention the fact that the 5 dancing israelis all admitted to arriving to the NJ rooftop with their film equipment 40+minutes before the first plane struck. Let me know if you'd like me to share the memo and avail you of your ignorance.
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u/Equivalent-Sector-22 Nov 10 '24
Like all of the airplane parts they buried before they could be analyzed.
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Feb 26 '25
Anyone who dances around in celebration of a terror attack either knew about it; or is happy that it happened.
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u/Bannedfromred93 Mar 10 '25
Five Israelis (Sylvian and Paul Kurzberg, Omer Marmari, Yaron Shmuel and Oded Ellner)working for "Urban Moving Systems" were arrested on 9/11 after being seen photographing and celebrating the attack on the WTC. Maria, an eyewitness, contacted police, describing the men standing on the roof of a van appearing ‘jovial’ and giving each other ‘high-fives’. Bosses of Urban Moving Systems abandoned offices and New Jersey home and flee to Israel 1 month after 9/11. During an interview on Israeli talkshow, they said they were there to "DOCUMENT" the event. Why did a moving truck have expensive camera equipment ready at hand? (Source: ABCnews, CIA doc F-07-01976)
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u/PeanutBox83 Mar 25 '25
Well this comment has aged like milk, we all know the truth now about Israel.
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u/Less-Connection-9830 Nov 13 '25
It's not antisimitism to question the motives of Israel. I personally don't believe it's an innocent country. You better believe it has its share of corruption.
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u/Charming-Clue2194 Nov 19 '25
It's not that conspiracy theorists ignore the mountains of evidence that support the official story, it's that the official story doesn't acount for all the evidence we have. The five men arrested that day were tested to have explosive residue in their truck and on their clothes. The moving company they worked for was a shell company abandoned on that exact day it happened. Surely, stuff like this being ignored by the investigators is in it of itself suspicious isn't it?
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u/ButterscotchLife3302 Sep 18 '25
Plenty of sources out there that debunk the israel theory. Independant research is always wise to do. Regarding gazans celebrating. Google news reels from news outlets in the region and you'll see them dancing in the street. Let's not forget bin laden proudly took responsibility before hiding away.
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u/SirRoarzAlot Feb 20 '26
Yes because we must absorb all the sources where the owner of said source is Jewish. Why would they self sabotage like that and blame Israel when clearly the puppet they paid to say he was responsible can be a better scapegoat?
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u/Scary-Cobbler4175 Jul 25 '26
We invaded iraq and Afghanistan. Both of them are allies to palestine. Neither iraq or afghanistan had ANYTHING to do with 9/11. Neither county had anything to do with what happened. All of the torrorist came from saudi arabia and Pakistan. Who wants us to invade iraq and Afghanistan? ISRIEAL
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u/heatherbyism Aug 15 '23
Is there even any real evidence that this ever actually happened? It's always seemed like bullshit to me.
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u/Hot_Commercial5712 Aug 15 '23
FOIA requests and FBI cases that are completely public. It is real, whether or not they actually were doing anything wrong at all is whats questionable.
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u/Massrelay665 Aug 16 '23
They were definitely doing questionable things. The FOIA states their moving company was a cover for an undeclared Mossad espionage ring.
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u/Half-life-298 Nov 08 '24
The Israelis went on Israeli national TV and have a dif story saying they were sent to document the attacks - before it occurred..?? - and were caught giving false testaments.
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u/Niguhtree Nov 19 '24
there was a leaked FBI watchlist in Italy that named the owner of the moving company; Dominik Suter, the Israelis were driving and posing as employees of the companies work van
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u/Responsible-Doctor38 Aug 20 '23
When the Muslims do it blame the Jews
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u/Electrical_Noise_690 Sep 13 '23
Not really you can go to most 9/11 videos and most of them are white people who blame isrealis.
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Sep 12 '23
I have never seen anyone who supports the official narrative of 9/11 actually explain what was going on here. I think the actions of israeli operatives before during and after 9/11 is the most questionable thing about the whole event
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u/Worldly-Big7553 Sep 11 '24
Didn't their Van have a painted picture of the towers burning on it or something parallel?
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u/WinnerVarious7156 Nov 28 '24
you have to be the stupidest person i've encountered today, granted it's not even 2a.m. yet
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u/Claddagh66 Mar 23 '25
You are making shit up. Not one of them failed a polygraph and they were not confirmed Mossad agents. So the one you say refused for ten weeks, they sent him and the other 4 back to Israel the day after He refused for ten weeks? I and many others would think the FBI would keep the one who, you say, failed a polygraph longer. They were only in Jail for 10 weeks, then sent back to Israel when the FBI could find no evidence they knew anything about the attacks prior.
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u/Niguhtree Mar 24 '25
Why are you so trusting of Israel? I suggest looking up the lavon affair, the israeli account and names like Dominik Suter, Uri Simchoni, and many more. I mean the mossads motto is "wage war through deception" its right in your face
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u/Massrelay665 Aug 16 '23
Doesn't "Irving Moving" sound like a shell company for intelligence agencies? Like how the CIA created a fake airlines during the bay of pigs?
I wonder if anyone can FOIA request info on Irving Moving??
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u/BibslyBogman Sep 21 '23
Hey since you were obviously convinced of the moving company being a front only a short time after making this comment, I’m curious as to what instilled you with such confidence? You claim that the moving company is mentioned in an FOIA request but I cannot find it. Can you source whatever convinced you?
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u/Jameis_Jameson May 01 '24
Here's a link to the real story behind it. https://gregreese.substack.com/p/the-zionist-death-grip-on-the-united
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Aug 22 '24
Aipac been busy since then. Now if another 911 were to happen they wouldnt even be investigated
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u/y_polar Nov 15 '24
the amount of pain and suffering my family endured during 9/11 times was so bad i don’t know how they got through it. so much racism, ignorance and hatred towards innocent loving people. my mom was attacked by a dog because the owner let it loose when she was going for a morning walk
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u/Lucky_Whole_948 Jan 17 '25
Why the hell would anyone be dancing when the towers fell? Because they organised they were celebrating their success Israel caused 9/11 this is fact
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u/Nearby-Film-8408 Apr 08 '25
IF I WERE IN CHARGE, IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL TO SHOW ANY BIT OF FOREIGN FLAGS OR CUSTOMS!!! IF YOU REFUSE TO ASSIMILATE, ON THE PLANE AND OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU GO!!!!!!
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u/Intelligent-Drag3554 Sep 12 '25
I was able to see the video in 2023 however I cannot find it anywhere now! Does anyone have it??
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u/Heavy-Platypus4961 Jun 19 '26
What bizarre is that the “ moving company “ they worked for packed their bags and abandoned the building as soon as they got arrested. That’s all the evidence you need to
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u/Honest-tinder-review Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23
For the people searching, there is no video of the actual dancing Israeli’s.