r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/MGLLN • 21h ago

Could probably hear the “FOH!!” from space

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u/ohyousoretro 20h ago

Didn't the juror agree that there was reasonable doubt as well, just refused to vote that way?

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u/likeusontweeters 20h ago

Correct.
I personally think this case became something that it wasn't meant to be. It was an extreme case of how mental health issues aren't taken seriously in this country.. of how womens health issues, after childbirth, are often ignored... it became men vs women.. and now white vs black. The latter two things don't matter in this case. Every single person would be better off of we had free mental health care in this country.

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u/LeResist ☑️ 20h ago edited 20h ago

Yeah but I don't think that even applies here. Reality is Lindsay Clancy was an incredibly privileged woman who has all the means to get mental health services and DID. She was seeing a therapist and taking medication. She had access to mental services. That wasn't a problem for her. Thats why I don't understand why people are acting like this case was a matter of "mental health services need to be accessible" cause that's not even a factor in this case.

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u/Lexi_Banner 18h ago

Thats why I don't understand why people are acting like this case was a matter of "mental health services need to be accessible" cause that's not even a factor in this case.

Because if this trained nurse with all of her privilege couldn't get the help she needed to conquer this issue, what hope do other, less privileged women have? That's why women are so horrified and outraged by this case. She did everything "right", and still didn't get the right help. So what else can women do?

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u/Ok_Mastodon7622 11h ago

She most likely was not taking her health issues seriously - she neglected her herself now other people have to pay for her mistakes

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u/keygreen15 1h ago

Lexi won't answer this, goes against the narrative

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u/Ok_Mastodon7622 50m ago

You can't help someone if they don't want to help themselves :

  1. Dr. Kirk Heilbrun : she didn't tell any of her providers that she was having thoughts of harming her children.

  2. Dr. Donald Condie : she never reported to her mental health providers that she was hearing voices

  3. Her mother, Paula Musgrove, testified that Lindsay did tell her and Patrick about thoughts of harming the children : she reportedly disclosed the thoughts to family but not to her healthcare providers.

  4. Saathoff : she testified that she declined medication for bipolar disorder

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u/Cold_Respond_7656 17h ago

What did her husband do that wasn’t everything “right”?

Work from home? Get a nanny? Take breaks from work to run errands? Pick up meds? Take her to appointments? Get his parents to help?

She had access to more than most.

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u/Lexi_Banner 17h ago

RIGHT. YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU ARE SO RIGHT. Now take that thought all the way to its conclusion: if this privileged person with all of these resources couldn't get the help she desperately sought and fought for, what hope do other less privileged women have of getting the help they need?

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u/keygreen15 1h ago

But she did get the help she needed, something about not taking her pills? Even if that were true (not getting the help she needed), you're suggesting we give her a pass for murdering her children because she tried hard beforehand not to murderer her children. If that's not what you're suggesting, answer your own hypothetical bitching about reading comprehension.

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u/MyFriendPalinopsia 49m ago

She missed appointments with doctors, didn't take many of the medicines prescribed to her, and most importantly, if she was having psychotic symptoms, she never mentioned them to her doctors.

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u/Bitter_Radish5381 16h ago

I am not understanding what you are trying to imply. "If this privileged woman didn't manage, other women can't. Therefore..." ?? 

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u/Lexi_Banner 15h ago

Did you read the whole fucking comment? Because it's all there, champ.

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u/Bitter_Radish5381 15h ago

It's not. It is a trial, and if your are building your argument about a trial, the minimum you need to do is link your arguments to the outcome you think is right about the trial. What you are trying to say? Women can't deal with the danger of their psychosis and therefore should be deprived of raising their children? Or women can't control it so everytime they try to kill someone they should be set free? What is the whole point of your argument? 

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u/Lexi_Banner 15h ago

If you have no reading comprehension, go back to school. I'm not helping you learn the skill now. If you can't comprehend my point, that's your problem. Not mine.

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u/Bitter_Radish5381 15h ago

 YOU DIDN'T EVEN STOP TO THINK ABOUT IT LOL omg you don't know?!? just accepted whatever TikTok told you to think?!? 

I was always confuse to what was the whole point but you all have no idea what you are advocating for

It would be funny if not tragic. Centuries of women struggle to give us rights and you all with your stupidity are able to destroy it this fast. Incredible. 

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u/Cold_Respond_7656 16h ago

I don't need to extrapolate to a wider benchmark.

It's exhausting listening to her supporters treat her like she's on welfare, living out of her car and ZERO access to anything

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u/Lexi_Banner 16h ago

Okay, brick wall. Go talk to someone else.

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u/DrunkenHobo-Patnor 17h ago

Admit themselves in to a psychiatric hold until they stop thinking about killing their children? Your point does not stand as you backed up all the reasoning against it. Why are women so horrified? Is there some sort of fear of checking yourself in? I have had to check myself in and spend a few weeks under watch and guidance which greatly helped. I don't get why it's so difficult to understand that arguably this never should have happened, realistically the fault is on her. The defense spun up this narrative because it's the best of the worst they could go with and now it's being megaphoned by social media. I just feel that there is a huge lack in accountability all around in this case and if it were a straight white male going through the same thing, this wouldn't have even made national news for more than a day before he had been sentenced to jail.

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u/Lexi_Banner 17h ago

Admit themselves in to a psychiatric hold until they stop thinking about killing their children?

Which she did. Twice. And they sent her home. TWICE.

Why are women so horrified?

Tell me you're not a woman without telling me. I'm not doing the heavy lifting for you. You can type into Google "why do women fear/distrust medical professionals" and do the reading for yourself. I suggest adding "reddit" so you can read loads and loads and LOADS of the horror stories that have been posted. This is not a rare thing. This is endemic, and most women have had a traumatic experience caused by doctors and other medical professionals.

Until you've taken the time to educate yourself, we have nothing to talk about.

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u/HandCrafted1 14h ago

They sent her home because she didn’t qualify or meet the criteria, but they gave her different resources to contact that were more in-line with her issues (which she didn’t use). She was offered an in-patient facility and refused it because she didn’t want to be separated from her kids. She didn’t admit her thoughts of harming her kids to mental health officials and even the defense stated it was likely because “she didn’t want them to take away her kids”. She did not do everything right, she omitted critical information that could’ve led to her getting the help she needed. And while I can empathize with not wanting your children to be separate from you, you also need to take responsibility when you don’t give the necessary information to the people you’re seeking help from.