r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Ophelia_Y2K • 3h ago
Original Creation How beauty standards for women and trends in beauty have changed from the 1850s-2020s
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u/Sea_Awareness150 3h ago
The 1920s looked like a hoot
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u/Still-Wash-8167 2h ago
That’s what I was thinking. They look so free-spirited
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u/nutmegtell 1h ago
That was my grandmothers generation. She had the long demure Gibson girl style hair but it was so long it gave her bad headaches. One day she was sitting in the bathroom, and cut herself a bob.
She got a bunch of dresses that flattered her slim figure, and became a real beauty of the 1920’s. Love to see her pictures. She was a real one. Played basketball in high school and into college. Lived her best life! Passed in 1987 and I miss her every day
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u/brandywine189 3h ago
I liked that we could actually see the outfits to understand the full beauty standards….up until the final 4 ‘slides’ anyway. It would be way fun/interesting to do this seeing the full body/outfits from head to foot! Great fun to see regardless!
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u/sitheandroid 3h ago
Future historians: No one can truly tell what happened during the 2020s, however the widespread theory is that greater allergies to processed food produced the grossly inflamed lips we see in photographs from that time.
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u/FireBreathingNun 3h ago
The sunken cheeks and skeletal appearance could also be a result of fear of food scarcity at that time.
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u/worldsbiggestchili 34m ago
The 1920s dark sunken eye look was similar. It's that hundred year famine cycle.
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u/Confuseasfuck 20m ago
I have enough faith that they would be smart enough to clearly see the steady rise of plumper lips in previous years and relate that to both the cheapening of plastic surgery and the way cameras and social media have been making it easier and easier to compare yourself to others
but idk, maybe the microplastics in our brains will make people in the future forget the literal basics of how any society works and think beauty trends exist in a vacuum. who knowns
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u/kernalbuket 3h ago
Great take, grandpa
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u/nonoanddefinitelyno 3h ago
My 16 year old daughter laughed and agreed.
She a grandpa too?
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u/kernalbuket 3h ago
How many people in the last picture have "glossy inflamed lips"
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u/nonoanddefinitelyno 3h ago
It was a funny joke - why you getting so upset?
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u/kernalbuket 3h ago
I'm just not a big fan of jokes that punch down. There are lots of young girls out there that are trying to be socially accepted and have healthy self-esteem and making fun of them isn't helping anyone. Do i like the style, not really but making fun of someone's looks is the lowest form of comedy.
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u/TheCryingGrizzlies 2h ago
Injecting lip filler is not healthy behavior, and certainly not something that should be done to young girls. Also, this is the most dubious use of the term "punch down" I've ever seen used. I take it youre probably in your late teens? If not, youre definitely just online too much.
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u/kernalbuket 2h ago
No. I'm just always against making fun of people for their looks. I don't care what I think about them personally, I wouldn't be for making fun of their looks.
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u/TheCryingGrizzlies 2h ago
Its poor taste to make fun of someone for something they dont have control over. This may include appearance. BUT, you can definitely make fun of people for choices that they make. Such as injecting shit into their lips to make them look just as awful and weird as all of the other bozos who tried it before them.
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u/kernalbuket 2h ago
Again, I'm against making fun of people for their looks. It seems that most people disagree but that's not surprising given internet culture.
I'll happily take all the down votes for saying we shouldn't do it.
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u/throwawaynnfuxanyway 2h ago
But it isn't even their looks! It's manufactured! Make up and plastic surgery are very different trends
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u/kernalbuket 2h ago
Try to spin it however you want so you feel fine doing it. I'm just not for doing it however you want to frame it.
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u/staitfarejudge 10m ago
Would you marry someone with a tattoo of a squirrel playing a baby grand piano on their forehead? Asking for a friend.
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u/masterap85 3h ago
Punch down? Saying “Those fucking lips look gross as fuck” would be punching down, and true
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u/kernalbuket 2h ago
That's an opinion, not a fact. There are plenty of people who like them and no one is asking you to like them.
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u/qmccaffery 2h ago
nah it’s a fact🤣🤣you’re coping bc you have filler or something
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u/kernalbuket 1h ago
Someone needs to go back to middle school language arts class and learn the difference between facts and opinions. And no coping whatsoever. I'm just a 47 year old male who thinks we shouldn't make fun of people for their looks
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u/ubergic 3h ago
I like that Josephine Baker and Anna May Wong are in this list twice each, which is correct.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
They're both too important to both the 1920s and 1930s not to have them twice lol
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u/abdallha-smith 2h ago
We're at the corpse stage with dead eyes
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u/RunninAg41nstTheWind 1h ago
Glad someone else noticed. The start of the "get work done" phase is completely evident. The last page, all the faces are sunken and, like you said, dead eyes. So unfortunate.
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u/perplexedtv 3h ago edited 3h ago
I don't really see any kind of pattern. Different women appeal to different men and women at any point throughout history.
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u/MallyOhMy 1h ago
You can actually see the popular face shape change, and the way women pose changes to look more flattering according to the contemporary beauty standards. Look at the first couple slides vs the last ones and you will see long oval faces vs a selection of heart and triangle faces with a scattering of square jaws with chiseled cheeks.
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u/Unfair-Leadership-67 1h ago
Plus noses. I'm a white woman with a wide nose and it was so obvious to me that starting around the time of TV, the white women on here had slim noses. Prior to that there was variety.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
That's mostly the point! Trends in what is preferred change a lot over different times and cultures
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u/perplexedtv 3h ago
That's the opposite of what I said, funnily enough, although I did typo 'and' for 'at', which I'll correct.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
Ah, well I do see plenty of trends within certain decades (for example a small mouth in the 1920s, a strong nose in the 1880s, downturned eyes in the 1900s, filler lips in the 2020s). There are often multiple overlapping trends at once though, and some people remain popular even if certain preferences change
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u/perplexedtv 3h ago
Filler lips aren't a standard though. They're a weird trend that most people find revolting.
Is the chart more about fashion or about natural beauty? Maybe that's what I'm misunderstanding.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 2h ago
They overlap, and it's both. I don't believe beauty is fully universal, we are heavily influenced by our surroundings, culture, and time. There are no trends or beauty ideals that everyone agrees with. Name any "beautiful" celebrity and there will always be people who don't think they are beautiful. I'd say some of these are examples that are more specific to certain niches or trends, but by the nature of ideas of beauty, they all are
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u/989j 2h ago
Okay, but you’re also showing people who at the time were regularly also not the “universal standards of beauty,” and who also were, at the time, insulted for their looks.
Billie Holiday was a gorgeous person with impeccable style not to mention, one of the most talented and moving singers in the world. She talked about in her autobiography about how she was labeled as ugly, dissected her features on top of the battles because of her race (and I’m even scratching the surface of race and beauty too).
Like, this is a cool thing to look at and it’s interesting to see current day hegemony with physical appearance, but kind of misses some points too.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 2h ago
No one ever agrees on beauty. Many are examples of people considered beautiful to some groups of people but not others
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago edited 3h ago
I've been working on this as my procrastination project for the past month-ish lol. History, beauty, and style are all things I'm interested in so this overlaps those areas of interest for me.
It's mostly from a eurocentric perspective as that's what I'm most familiar with and best able to find using sources in English. But I made an attempt to include people who were influential in beauty or reflective of trends to international or niche audiences as well. I am however not an omnipresent being with unlimited knowledge, as much as I would love to be. So I would be happy to hear people you think are important to a certain era if you feel I am missing any.
I tried to find people who were popular and considered beautiful in the actual era I placed them in, rather than retrospectively popular people, as I think that's important to historical accuracy. I looked for sources from the era that they were considered beautiful, or if that wasn't available then things that at least implied it like for example someone being a "professional beauty" or having their images be popular, or being a popular actress known for their looks.
So this is intended to not be from a modern perspective or from my own perspective. I am not saying I necessarily find all the people I listed here beautiful or don't, because my goal here is to stay outside of my own perspective. When I get closer to the present day it probably gets harder to be thorough because there's just so many niches of ideals.
I started from the 1850s because that's about when photography becomes available, although it's not always the clearest source for an image compared to paintings or sketches until a bit later. The oldest photo I have here is the one of Jenny Lind which was taken in 1848.
I tried not to have many repeats, so even though some celebrities may be relevant through multiple decades, I put them in the decade I felt they were most influential to beauty standards in. Unless I really couldn't decide. I didn't put them necessarily in order, because that would be impossible objectively, but I did generally put the most relevant and popular celebrities in the first few spots.
Not all of the people I chose are the mainstream beauty standard of their era (although most are), for example the pre-Raphaelite ideal of beauty in the 1800s was not exactly the same as the mainstream ideals, but it was still an ideal of beauty to a group of people in that time period.
Given the amount here and that I'm just one person doing this for fun it's likely I made some mistakes with spelling or similar things although I tried to revise it. Honestly I struggled to narrow down some of these to one page lol so I know I'm missing some important figures, but hopefully it still gives a good general idea.
I'd be willing to do something similar into earlier time periods with paintings if there is interest
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u/BabyLegsOShanahan 2h ago
I appreciate your disclaimer and I really like that you did include non-white influences based on what you know. It would be cool to do this with multiple cultures shown - maybe some people can add their own perspectives.
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u/Dizzy_Restaurant3874 3h ago
What happened in 1993 and 2007 that they mark non-decade changes?
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
There started to be more people I felt were essential to include or certain differentiated eras. The late 80s-early 90s was the classic supermodel era for example, while the later 90s reacted against that with heroin chic and less polished looks. And the 2008-2013 era Victoria's Secret models were huge. It was also a bit different from 2013-2019 when trends like insta models and super thick eyebrows happened
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u/deaconxblues 2h ago
Why did you start doing less than full decades in the more recent years?
This is great, BTW
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u/AnnaGorgeousss 3h ago
The only consistent beauty standard is that there is no consistent beauty standard.
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u/ratfancier 2h ago
I dunno… there are definitely some thematic changes but I see a lot that's consistent too. For the most part (though there are some exceptions): slim but not underweight, reasonably defined jawline and cheekbones but otherwise typically female-leaning bone structure, symmetrical facial features, no facial differences/"disfigurements", no facial hair, all teeth apparently present and straight, full but not large lips without downturn, evenly-pigmented and unblemished skin with no obvious signs of ageing, small or average-sized nose without an obvious bump or outward curve, non-prominent ears, shaped eyebrows, large or emphasised eyes (often), plenty of hair (not necessarily long, but generally thick), a great deal of attention paid to hairstyling, clothing (generally, but not universally) that emphasises or reveals female aspects of body shape (where I can see it) — a lot of these are, I suppose, signifiers of health, good nutrition, fertility, etc. so could be expected to persist as a part of a beauty standard, but there's nothing unhealthy about sticky-out ears or broad nostrils. I think nearly all these women would be considered beautiful in any of the time periods, though maybe not the most beautiful, and the details of clothing/hairstyle/makeup would obviously change.
These are OP's picks and I've found the images really interesting to look through, and appreciate the time and effort taken to produce this fascinating look through history — not too sure, tho, that I would personally include all of these under a "meeting beauty standard" category, though, even though OP did say that the criteria were broader than just "mainstream beauty standard". Some of the models, I think, while undoubtedly gobsmackingly beautiful, were successful because their natural looks combined with the way they were styled was intended to be strikingly different from any beauty standard, rather than fitting any standard.
And one or two others who I don't feel like naming were known, I think, more for very distinctive, expressive looks than for fitting any beauty standard, even a non-mainstream one. But that's just personal opinion and those vary, of course.
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u/JaniZani 2h ago
East Asian culture and many African cultures do have different beauty standards not completely expressed here.
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u/ratfancier 1h ago
Absolutely! I suspect compiling a more comprehensive set of graphics would be a gargantuan undertaking, though, especially with the probably relatively small amount of good source materials going back that far from some regions. And with the extra difficulties that would come from finding and selecting good examples from cultural backgrounds that aren't the creator's own.
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u/EleventhTier666 3h ago
I think there is. Take Ana De Armas, for example, and people would find her beautiful all along the timeline.
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u/miezmiezmiez 3h ago
I think people in the 19th century might have considered the proportions of her features too 'childlike' for her to be an iconic beauty. Nobody would have argued against someone finding her pretty, mind, but she wouldn't embody conventional attractiveness the way she does now.
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u/AnnaGorgeousss 3h ago
Sure, but that kinda proves the point—beauty standards change, but some people are just universally attractive.
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u/perplexedtv 3h ago
What is a beauty standard though? What percentage of people has to find a person attractive for them to be 'standard'? If two physically opposite women are equally beautiful,.how can there be a standard?
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u/AnnaGorgeousss 3h ago
That’s the point though—there can be multiple “standards” at the same time. Beauty isn’t a single face, it’s a moving target shaped by culture, time, and personal taste.
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u/perplexedtv 3h ago
I just can't grasp the concept of each period having multiple standards, or what a standard means in that case.
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u/AnnaGorgeousss 3h ago
I think “standard” just means the traits a culture tends to reward or idealize at a given time—not that everyone agrees on one exact look. Two opposite looks can both be considered beautiful; the standards are the patterns, not a single template.
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u/perplexedtv 3h ago
So what would be an example of a trait that a culture idealises now which the same culture wouldn't idealise in the 1980s or the 1930s?
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u/SmartaHari 2h ago
I console myself with the fact that I would have been considered a hotty patotty during Tudor times as they liked a massssssive forehead on a woman, lol.
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u/_BlackDove 1h ago
60s-70s are probably my favorite and I wasn't even alive then. Love the simple hairdos and focus on the eyes. Brunettes with smokey eyes from that era just.. Whew. 😅
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u/lord_xl 3h ago
I think this should be re-titled "Western beauty standards"
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
For the most part it is, as I explained in my wall of text comment here lol. But it's not as entirely western-centric as you might think from a quick glance, there are multiple nonwestern examples on every page.
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u/kamace11 2h ago
Some of these people were simply famous... Not necessarily the beauty standard of the time. And throwing in people like the Korean empress doesn't make much sense since their beauty standards were not the same beauty standards as in the West (though I appreciate that you're trying to make it more diverse, beauty stands standards in the west at this time were extremely white and quite narrow).
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 2h ago
Maybe, but especially for the earlier decades I only included them if I could find people in their time period calling them notably beautiful, at least within a certain group. For the most recent decades I used some judgement of if they were influential to beauty trends or standards. Like for example Billie Eilish started a wave of people with similar eyes for example. Not everyone would agree if she is beautiful or "just famous" though
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u/kamace11 1h ago
Yeah but beauty standard means something, specifically like set physical preferences. For example; long, long hair from 1860s-1900s; that was a beauty standard. The 1860s ideal face was wide set, with a small mouth and bright eyes, and the body would ideally be slightly plump. This directly contrasts with the 1920s, when short hair, angular features, thin brows, thin/angular bodies, and Clara Bow style lips were in fashion. Some of these people, like Cora Pearl, were infamously NOT seen as conventionally beautiful; they are outside the standard.
It is still cool to see all the images of these famous women together but I think beauty standards isn't the best description for it.
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u/Victory-Dewitt 3h ago
La Barucci…🤭
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
From what I understand she was considered a bit of an "exotically beautiful" courtesan with "mediterranean" looks. She really does not fit modern beauty standards though lol
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u/PhotoBN1 2h ago
I still think Lee Miller is one of the most beautiful and important women in history
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u/Parker_Barker_III 1h ago
Sharon Stone’s face doesn’t look like Sharon Stone. Am I crazy?
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 1h ago
Someone told me the picture might have a filter over it, I unfortunately didn't notice at the time
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u/LeftSky828 1h ago
Thank you for doing this. That took a lot of work, and I’m sure difficult choices had to be made. There was also a scarcity of photos in those first few years. Many of the women who posed for them were royalty.
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u/Feeling-Aioli4946 1h ago
i think all these are beautiful women, although slide 16 is just a bunch of sick anorexic women 🙃 it’s sad, and we’re probably going back there with the current ozempic pandemic 😕
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u/HerbertWest 28m ago
I liked how much the photo of Grace Jones stood out, hah. Definitely beauty, definitely not standard! Such a unique look.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 23m ago
Maybe "beauty standard" isn't entirely the right wording but her look was just so era-defining! If I had to encapsulate the decade visually in one person, she'd be a good representative I feel
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u/No_Breadfruits6969 27m ago
Good save if you’re searching for baby names too! Loved reading all the older names..
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u/Necessary_Poet_3524 26m ago
Interesting the latest trends literally get women to starve to look hot. What a shame.
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u/No-No-Aniyo 23m ago
This was very interesting.
Not sure sex workers could be called beauty standards for the 1800s since they wouldn't have been polite society. Would have been more with the nobility I think.
1900s looks like they knew how to make trouble
1910-1920s was a very emo/possessed look
1930s brought in the glam
1940s started the pin-ups
1950s back to glam
1960s is all about the models
1970s were all so pretty
1980s looked like they were prepared to fight
1990s looks like the end of the models
2000s brought in the big actresses - America's sweethearts
Starvation, baby face, surgery and influencers seems to be what comes after.
Feels like this list tried to be worldwide but was heavily American, I would have liked to know more about the beauty standards in other countries.
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u/laudysmd 21m ago
This is an excellent collection. Not only lovely to see so many beautiful and striking women together, it's interesting to see the evolution of hair and make up, too!
Hope we can bounce back from the lip fillers and buccal fat removals, tho.
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u/Lovethebonesofher 14m ago
My favourite from this sub, I think ever!!
I love it and it is very interesting
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u/ross_liftss 3h ago
Emma Waston peak. Fight me.
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u/Skyhighcats 2h ago
It’s weird/pathetic for anyone to fight about the attractiveness of an actress.
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u/Still-Wash-8167 2h ago
Audrey Hepburn, Marylin Monroe, Natalie Portman, Scarlett Johansson, Ana de Armas, and Lily Collins. But yeah, Emma is up there too
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u/SetPhazer 2h ago
Is Margot Robbie the only one on there twice? (Well deserved btw)
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 2h ago
There are a bunch on here twice, I tried to avoid doing that but sometimes I just couldn't decide on a decade to put certain people in haha
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u/alisacp 2h ago
Uhm you may want to check your Olivia Wilde pic 💀
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 2h ago
howso? 😭
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u/CatsruleBabiesdrool 1h ago
Cora Pearl in the first slide was widely considered unattractive but was still a very successful courtesan due to her style and charm.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 1h ago
I tend to not fully believe her saying she wasn't considered attractive, there are also records of people in her time period calling her beautiful. I do think her type of look is one that is more preferred in modern times compared to her own time period though. And I just love that particular photo of her to be honest!
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u/HoneyLocust1 1h ago
I like Billie Eilish but isn't she more of a fashion trend setter than someone who represents what modern beauty standards are?
Also I had no idea who Gabbriette is but wow those eyebrows are really taking the "thin eyebrows are back" to an extreme.
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u/zardozLateFee 1h ago
I have to wonder how much of "beauty" is just what the kids call "aura". Like, of course you consider an empress or famous stage star beautiful because they're living the best life anyone can imagine. The appreciation for their looks might come after.
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u/I_SmellFuckeryAfoot 39m ago
criminal that Jennifer Connelly and Monica Bellucci fell off the list at all
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 25m ago
I just didn't have space to keep them on it lol (applies for many others as well)
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u/80Lashes 5m ago
Hedy Lamarr was such a badass.
"At the beginning of World War II, along with composer George Antheil, Lamarr co-invented a radio guidance system for Allied torpedoes that used spread spectrum and frequency hopping technology to defeat the threat of radio jamming by the Axis powers."
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u/VivaNOLA 3h ago
Jesus that layout and typography is a fucking mess.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
This genuinely took months lol, it's not perfect but I'd love to see someone do better without AI slop
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u/OGraineshadow 2h ago
Notice how none of them are obese .
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u/dreadwitch 50m ago
How many models/actresses or professional beauties do you know that are obese now?
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u/heurekas 2h ago
Interesting how many on this list bucked trends and weren't "conventionally" attractive according to the standards of the time.
Lots of diverse (not in ethnicity) looks and styles on display here.
It seems that black women were invented in the 50's and asians in the 40's. I'm guessing this is mostly from the USA? Because in some western European countries, asian women were rather fetished in the early 1800's and possibly earlier.
What is the source for this list?
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 2h ago edited 1h ago
It is USA-centric but there are 4 black or partially black women in on the first page for example, maybe it's not obvious immediately. And there are Asian women included starting from the 1870s, or from the first page if you count Hawaiian women. I know that's not many and I would have loved to have included more, but it's simply difficult or impossible to find many examples from specific decades of named nonwhite individuals with photographs taken of them. And mainstream American and western European culture was heavily racist in that time period. Racial-based slavery was literally still going on in America during the time period of the first image, and segregation up to the 1950s.
A couple examples can be found of anonymous idealized Asian women aimed at westerners for example, but not with specific dates attached to them beyond vaguely the century. And well known examples of "great beauties" from Asia from the time involve, at most, drawings that are not highly detailed and I can't use as examples in this context, on top of largely being from earlier time periods than this date range.
The source is years of background knowledge as well as like a month spent looking up people who there is some source or another specifically calling them particularly beautiful or implying they are widely considered beautiful
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u/stupidber 3h ago
Is that a dead chick on the left of the first slide?
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
The woman in the water is portraying Ophelia from Hamlet, who drowned herself. So yes actually lol. But she was also considered a tragically beautiful character
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u/Vindepomarus 3h ago
Everyone in the first slide is dead 😆
If you mean the one on the left that's third from the top, that's Ophelia, a character from Hamlet who does indeed die during the play.
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u/OriginalPerception62 1h ago
I think you missed Sigourney weaver and charlize theron :) and denise richards i guess
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u/Electrical-Job8700 3h ago
Putting Billie Eilish on there is a joke, right?
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
I put her here because I think her look (especially her "sanpaku eyes") was influential to beauty standards and trends. It's not about if I think the people listed here are "objectively" insanely beautiful or not
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u/MyUserNameLeft 3h ago
It’s funny how bad these paintings seem next to other great artists of the time. There still absolutely amazing but compared to say Da Vinci
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u/Impossible-Sport-449 1h ago
Not gunna lie the older ones some I thought looked like men.
Also we peaked in the 90s toearly 2000s
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u/xkcdthrowaway 3h ago
Yet another eurocentric list to add to the hundreds, if not thousands, of the same already on the internet. Anyone keen on actual research would endeavour to identify and highlight a less biased view. Across all these time periods, Caucasians have never made up more than 20-25% of the world's population, yet this list has them in an overwhelming majority. Now this becomes yet another piece of training data that feeds into AI models, not to mention more blind "research" projects.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
I tried my best to find nonwhite women considered beautiful at the time as well, but unfortunately there are fewer with historical records and photographs at least available in English because Americans & Europeans on the whole were racist in the past (bold statement I know lol). It's just not possible to do as in-depth, decade-specific research going back as far for other cultures. This is not AI slop and years of background knowledge and research have contributed to my knowledge in this. If you could make a similar post focusing on other cultures, I would genuinely love to see it.
Some early nonwhite beauties I found were the Pre-Raphaelite model Fanny Eaton (Jamaican), 1850s artist's muse Jeanne Duval (Haitian and mixed-race), Sarah Forbes Bonnetta (goddaughter of Queen Victoria from the Yoruba people in west Africa), Queen Emma of Hawaii, Adah Isaacs Menken in the 1860s was mixed race and hid it, these are all just from the first page. if you look through there may be more than might appear at first glance. And it's not *entirely* from a western perspective either, someone like Dilraba Dilmurat for example is insanely popular for her looks in China but pretty unheard of in America, and there are many other examples here of that.
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u/Mysterious-Emu4030 3h ago
What do you mean Eurocentric ? You could argue that it is American centric but in no way you can argue that it is Eurocentric since a lot of European ethnic groups weren't included.
For example I noticed that there were few Spanish, German, Italian, Scandinavian or Slavic people apart from Russian people.
There are black people from 1910s to today and indian people from the 19th century to today. There are also numerous asian people at various times. Yes there lacks Native American but it the only group that has no representation at all.
Obviously it is made by an American person since almost everyone in this list is American. However, it isn't that much race based.
By the way, I am French and a lot of french actresses aren't included while they could as they were beauties for their times : Michèle Morgan, Danielle Darrieux, Françoise Dorléac, Emmanuelle Béard, Léa Seydoux, Eva Green. So even in groups that were represented a lot, it was a bit complicated to include everyone. I am pretty sure that Indian people would argue that Helen, Juhi Chawla, Freida Pinto, Preity Zinta or some other actresses could be added as well.
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 3h ago
Freida Pinto is on here! but yes, I almost included Eva Green among many others but there just wasn't enough room, and while I did include some who were considered beautiful to other cultures than Americans on every page, it would really a lot more space and research to include every culture. And being American most of the info available to me or knowledge that I have is going to be America-centric
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u/xkcdthrowaway 3h ago
Across all these time periods, Caucasians have never made up more than 20-25% of the world's population, yet this list has them in an overwhelming majority.
Now what does that ratio on this list looks like? What does that difference imply? One particular race is more beautiful than others? Or others exist but, hey, who cares?
Saying there are inclusions from other races reads far too much like the token black friend trope.
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u/Seienchin88 1h ago
This is just made to hate on modern women, isn’t it?
And Billy eilish, USA lip and Jenny Ortega aren’t that famous for their looks, aren’t they? (Beautiful but not that famous for their looks, aren they?)
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u/Ophelia_Y2K 1h ago
I appreciate women from all time periods, I am a woman. There are certain modern trends I dislike, but they are surgical or artificially imposed. Idk if you remember but a couple years ago Jenna Ortega's looks were super popular, and Billie Eilish definitely set certain beauty trends like "sanpaku" eyes. So that's why I included those two
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u/Various_Deer_7567 3h ago
Eyebrows sure come and go.