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Not to hijack this thread about something unrelated, but how can you tell this is AI? Ive heard this about other celeb posts, especially apologies. Is it bc its long and uses hard returns and dramatic paragraph breaks? That's something I've heard before, but good, thoughtful writers have been doing that since before AI. Are there other tell tale signs?
(For the record, I hate AI and am deeply disappointed in P!nk, I just want to know! Thx.)
While I think there are some "tells", I think the truth is that sometimes we can't know. AI is trained off of common writing patterns. The things people say are "tells" are things we teach students in English. In uni, it was not too dissimilar (I can expand if necessary/anyone is interested, but worried it's getting too off-topic).
I think the best way to ascertain whether it's AI or not, if there are no obvious signs (and by that, I mean dead giveaways where some people have left "prompts" or some bullshit or something that just doesn't make any sense and a human would have noticed), is to judge by prior work.
For example: If this is typical of Pink's style of writing, and matches things she's written before, then it might be Pink, and we are just saying AI everywhere because so many people are using it and bots are rising. (This is not to say people can't improve. I know many things influence my writing - it could be based on what I was watching/reading and now I'm invoking specific imagery I want to emulate, and writing frequently in and of itself is going to improve your capabilities of obviously writing better, how much of a shit I give, et al. But if something is dramatically different, or a different style of writing, then that's something I would notice more. When I used to teach English, before AI, it's what we'd do if we suspected plagiarism. We'd compare and contrast former writing, and then if our suspicions remained, gauge from the student their knowledge and understanding of the topic. Obviously, the latter part of this is not always possible, but the former should be.)
Outside of things like that, I think people do a genuine disservice by labelling so much as AI, because it's going to force a lot of people - and is already forcing a lot of people - to question themselves over whether something they've written/created looks AI or not. I've been accused of it more than once for Reddit comments, and it's largely because I can write paragraphs, the way I am now. More importantly than forcing people to modify how they write the way they've been taught most of their lives (writing in threes, similes and metaphors, the "so what does this mean/why is this important?", is stuff kids should be taught at a young age, so it shouldn't be uncommon), is that if we see AI everywhere, we're going to convince ourselves we can "tell" when something is AI, and that kind of self-assurance falls into things like the "Safe World Fallacy", and leads us open to being more taken by AI, because AI will likely shift away from its current "tells", leaving us "sure" we can tell, but for the most part, I don't think it's as easy to tell what's AI as people want it to be.
I can't say for sure if this is AI. It certainly feels like it could be, but also, a human could have easily written it, just as I've written these stupid ass paragraphs. I don't follow Pink so I don't know how she writes, or if she writes well, but I'd look at things she'd written previously to compare and contrast. There are some good YT channels that help with ascertaining whether something's AI that have really helped me, and D'Angelo Wallace did a really good video on why it's harmful to dismiss everything as AI recently that I'd highly recommend.
I think Hank Green is probably a really good example of this. People noticed that his stuff felt "AI" because it was very different to what he'd been doing previously and the way his videos used to be formatted. As a result, it stood out to a lot of people, who began asking questions, before he admitted he was using AI (I think ChatGPT, but I can't remember for certain.) To me, it's most important to examine everything with a critical lens and then make judgements based on available information as opposed to saying "THAT PERSON USED A SIMILE/METAPHOR/WROTE IN THREES, WROTE "IN ALL HONESTY", or any other common phrase humans have been using for decades).
I hope this answer helps. I fear how many people are using AI, and I fear that it'll not only erase people's abilities to learn, question, research, write and critically think, but it will destroy people creatively, and that doesn't get into the environmental, ethical or legal concerns I have. I fucking hate AI and this shit horrifies me.
Also: FREE PALESTINE! Fuck everyone who's supporting genocide, including those who are remaining silent. In the wise words of Elie Wiesel:
“We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men and women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must - at that moment - become the center of the universe.”
ETA: I saw someone source something, and this comment from Wiki really stands out and helps illustrate my point:
"Do not rely too much on your own judgment. Humans are notoriously bad at distinguishing human and LLM-generated text. While research on humans' abilities to detect AI-generated text is still limited, a 2025 study has shown that human ability to distinguish LLM text from human is no better than random chance.[4] Another 2025 study on German theses has shown that humans managed a "recognition rate of 57 % for AI texts and 64 % for human-generated texts".[5]"
Initial reaction. - that's on me is a common ai phrase. The sentence after the second "that's on me" is also very ai with its "This isn't that" phrasing. I stopped skimming after that because she's too pathetic.
My work makes us use Copilot, and they all generally sound the same when crafting a "human" response or when refining word vomit you throw into it. These are the patterns I have noticed when coming across something that feels AI-written:
Usually lists things "in threes." She does this a lot throughout the post, often separating the phrases with periods so its harder to detect
Parallel constructions/phrasing like "That's on me," "It's not [x], its [y], "[A] is the reason, not [B] or [C], "[X] has a way of..."
Metaphors/phrases that aren't typically used in natural language, like "A repost isn't a statement, and a meme isn't a spine," "for working people who have more to worry about than pop stars and pile ons."
Adjectives where they're not completely necessary
Loves the Oxford comma and em dash (these can be tricky because I use both a lot in my creative writing and AI has tainted it!)
Speaking in generalities rather than specifics
An awful lot of set-up for a "normal" conversation
Overuse of specific words
There's more, of course, but this is just what I have noticed in the capacity I have used it for work.
If it reads like an overly curated advertisement or blog post, then it was probably written by or "cleaned up" by AI. It appears as though Pink changed punctuation and added some of her own words to help "break it up," but this is just the opinion of a peasant :)
u/redelectro7just want to share a thought here because I can17h agoedited 17h ago
It's not worth reading. She doubles down on everything via rambles while saying a repost isn't agreeing but she agrees and centres herself as the victim because people called her out on what she said.
Literally all I’m getting from her rambling word salad of self importance and aggrandising is that UNICEF needs to cut ties with her.
Pretending like she hadn’t been featuring and being featured with bigots like her pal Noa Tishby is peak insulting and gaslighting. Pretending like she hasn’t been hateful herself, is comedic.
she called it a “complex war”. is it complex?? because many international organizations are in agreement that it’s genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and illegal occupation
She came very close to an aha moment on slide 3 in the bottom paragraph. Mentions her activism in the past was okay because it was against a government. But then goes on to conflate Israel with Judaism. So close!
She also tried to equate people who are anti-Zionist with the anti-trans movement and anti-queer movement. “You weren’t with me when I stood by gay kids, trans kids, of course you’re not going to be with me when I stand by Jews.”
I do understand that it would feel scary to be targeted for being Jewish. But that’s not what she did here. She instigated and did not show compassion for Palestine, it was about her. So yeah, sorry you’re being cancelled at the moment but maybe try not navel gazing so hard too. Your pain isn’t the only thing that matters.
Right. And at some point you gotta look at the wider scope. The ethnostate doing a genocide flying a star of david causes more antisemitism than anything else. As well as blatant media campaigns. Jewish people do not control the media (rich people do), but when you blatantly get silenced for opinions on palestine, its just ammo for right wingers anyways.
And theres a history of this. Jewish people feeling unsafe in the western world benefits the stste of israel.
I also read all of it. I'm confused about what she seems to be actually defending from her initial reaction/repost/memes. She is saying that Jewish families in the audience felt scared, targeted, and unsafe from macklemores comments? I am failing to understand how what he said would cause that reaction.
she had to face the fact that the propaganda she was told her whole life might not be true and felt uncomfortable. but instead of educating herself further, she’s just like “discomfort bad, so that must be bad”
He was explicit that he recognizes the Jewish community and the Israeli government are not the same thing. If a Jewish person can hear that plus "stop the genocide", and it scares them, they should probably consider therapy if they can understand the difference between themselves and the Israeli government.
I read it too…did Macklemore actually dress up in a hooked nose, black beard like a Jew wtf??? This statement went from denial to psychosis in like 5 seconds. And she’s mad because the images on the screen of kids being bombed were ‘not about all the Jews in the stadium’ and that Macklemore ‘don’t get to decide that for us’. ???
I guess actually it IS about you after all Pink…just not in the way you want it to be. They tell on themselves so bad when they take ‘free Palestine to be anti semitic’, literally no one else is making the correlation but you guys atp
He did. And tbh that’s the reason he fell off so quick, at least on tumblr. If she’d mentioned that as the reason she was calling him antisemitic in the first place, that’s all good, it was. HOWEVER we’re not fucking stupid and we know that’s not why he’s being called antisemitic now.
I think she’s full of shit but I also think people brushing over the “Jew costume” thing because we agree with his political stances is a little dodgy. I remember when he did that, and it was fucking egregious. Like, black face levels of egregious and I don’t think it’s something one who is not actually a tad anti Semitic does
Yeah we can say that was super fucked up and inexcusable AND that he’s right about Palestine. What he did was horrible and I hope he can find a way to make true amends to the Jewish community, but that doesn’t make his support of Palestine wrong.
Yes!!! Thank you! I get why people are saying it isn’t about her, but she’s explaining why she doesn’t trust Macklemore on this particular geopolitical issue and knows he’s some degree of antisemitic. Both can be true. I don’t trust his motivations either knowing this context.
I just wish she would say something acknowledging that Israel is massacring Palestinians. She says she is against murdering babies (what a hot take) but then doesn’t follow through with talking about who is murdering babies. She’ll say Hamas are terrorists, but won’t speak about what they’re fighting. I think she’s in cognitive dissonance limbo right now. I hope she deconstructs the propaganda she’s been fed.
What shits me about this defence is that if any average person went through what the Palestinians are going through they absolutely WOULD become terrorists. This shit is coming from the culture that is all ‘free carry’ ‘stand your ground’ ‘we hate liberal snowflakes’ - and I’m expected to believe if they were being tortured, displaced and genocided these are the people that would take the high road? If their country was being bombed they’d be ethically opposed to joining an organisation like HAMAS because violence is wrong?
Not to mention more than half of Palestine are under age. But I would not blame them one bit for fighting back. It is a testament to their character that so many still call only for peace and an end to the violence. Can say most of the shitheads I know in the west are not even pacifist at the best of times in their easy cushy lives.
Every IOF member that has hurt an innocent child deserves whatever is coming for them and I’m over Hamas being used to deflect from the real issue. This and antisemitism are the only two cards in the deck. You need new material Pink.
& it’s an absolutely loaded suggestion when you call Hamas terrorists. They have been systematically murdered, removed from their land, and treated like less than, are they not allowed to fight back? Kids join Hamas because they want freedom and safety, it just happens to be against Israel, so instead of calling it what it actually is, we call them terrorists.
This is what stuck out most to me, her whole response was basically "yeah Palestinian kids shouldn't be murdered or whatever, but what about ME and how I FEEL?!"
Also the concept of reposting something to your MILLIONS of followers then when backlash happens saying "It said things in word I didn't write, and I wouldn't have chosen all of them" is just hilarious cowardice
It baffles me! I grew up in New York. I have a TON of friends who were born Jewish. And they have no problem renouncing what Israel is doing and saying it's a genocide.
I notice that Pink has no problem calling Hamas a terrorist organization but "doesn't speak for Israel" and at no point says what Israel is doing is wrong. The Israeli government is a terrorist organization and I know plenty of Jews that are more than comfortable saying that because they aren't Zionists. She is.
And to say that it’s just Jewish people trying to simply exist in Israel. I didn’t realise just existing meant exterminating anyone else who existed there first.
My thoughts exactly. There are also plenty of Jews who don’t support genocide. She can’t pick being a Jew but she can always pick being on the right side of history.
u/tls114who deemed this meeting of the minds necessary?17h agoedited 17h ago
You’re not missing anything. I stopped reading about 4 sentences in when she started “a repost isn’t a statement….”, and tried to minimize using her platform to amplify said statement via her repost.
Also anytime someone's statement includes "blank" isn't a "blank", it's "blank" it immediately pings my brain's AI detection sensors, and I just bet she used gpt or something to help her "write" this word vomit statement.
Not to mention the timing of posting this on 9/11 🙄 it feels so manipulative.
There's so much wrong in all of this but I just had to point this part out lmao
What's even the point of bringing up working people? Like "hey guys, let's move on, working people have more to worry about?" what a bizarre thing to throw in there to try and move past the situation. You aren't doing shit for the working people. She can't even apologize like a normal person.
Also SHE MADE A LONG ASS POST ABOUT HERSELF AND HER DRAMA ON 9/11 and Rosh Hashanah and is like 'jeez guys its 9/11, don't you have something better to do?"
As far as I’m concerned, she’s bringing 9/11 in with it juxtaposed to Oct 7th as a way to say “you all were for killing terrorists for this, so why can’t we do the same for that?”
Oh, she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s trying to firm up any association people have in their heads between the Palestinian cause and 9/11 to remind them that brown people are bad, actually.
i hate this performative shit that celebrities do. "in solidarity with the workers" type shit, please in your adult life you have never once clocked in anywhere, you have never lived pay check to pay check, you have never struggled. give me a break. and writing a fucking novel of a response and then "for the real ones that have better things to do than worry about pop stars" so you mean like you? writing out a million word response on ig? come on.
This part is so funny because she’s acting like she was forced to post this nonsense today specifically. The Macklemore thing happened like a week ago lmao she could’ve posted it any time
This entire post is bizarre. Who decides to publish a clarification on their stand on the Israel/Palestine conflict opening it with a selfie of themselves? This person has lived so far up her own ass for so long that she completely forgot what it means be to human.
And then she starts the actual post trying to push the blame on whoever wrote the post she reshared. Because it's true that she reposted it, but that doesn't mean she agrees with its message obviously! 🤦🏻
Pink, people are calling you a Zionist because you posted a video condemning Macklemore for saying "free Palestine", not because you're Jewish. I'm glad she said something but maybe consider why people are telling you that.
yeahhhh I’m confused by this. Also glad she said something, but I’m not understanding the “as a Jewish mom I should be able to say ‘that scared me and it scared people I love’”. He didn’t make threats or encourage violence, so what is there to be afraid of in this specific situation? I don’t disagree with that as a general idea, but in the context of her post it just doesn’t make sense and centers the conversation on her again.
This is what people like her don’t understand. We don’t hate Jewish people by saying “Free Palestine”. We want an obvious genocide to end no matter what religion or people who are doing it.
How dare you put words in her mouth by assuming she believed the things she said and agreed with the explicit condemnation that she chose to repost??
Instead, you should let her go out of her way to lie about what Macklemore said and put words in his mouth that he explicitly rejected.
You may say that’s hypocritical, but have you considered the fact that she said George Bush was bad in 2006? Have you considered the fact that actually it’s okay to be hypocritical as long as you support Israel?
Same. There is nothing inherently antisemitic about calling for a free Palestine. It's infuriating and exhausting to watch people trying to equate anti-Zionism with antisemitism. And ironically it leads to more actual antisemitism.
I found out cause of the post of all those memes she did. Then I saw a clip of her with that Noa Tishby lady and was like “oh no…” Guess I’m no longer a fan of P!nk’s.
I remember when she first came out she said in an interview that the “most exotic thing” about her was being “half Jewish on her mom’s side”, but that she wasn’t religious.
(This was forever ago, in response to people asking if she was mixed. I had the article clipped because I wanted her haircut.)
I just found out today and ngl I’m in shock. How does she consider herself part of a religion and defends a country that doesn’t believe in any of the things she’s been supporting her entire career??? I’m so confused honestly. People talk about Christians and Muslims, but Jews follow the same beliefs as those two and no one wants to talk about it lol.
Her: 👉👈 you guys are saying really mean things like "give our home back" and "stop killing us" and "we deserve to live". That scares me! And Macklemore saying that might have scared people like me at the concert too. :((( Idk why you guys are calling me a Zionist when you don't know my beliefs, all I've said is that I support the Israeli government and that calling for Palestinian freedom makes me fear for my life! I can't hold any immoral views btw, I love gay people! 🌈
The gay coalition has arrived and we’d like to very much be excluded from this narrative, Ms. Pink. You don’t get to use us and 9/11 as smokescreens to protect the genocide of Palestinians.
Lowkey it’s worse she is educated on it but she clearly has a side she’s sticking with and anything else including basic human rights don’t matter on that topic. If this is what she’s willing to post publicly, can’t imagine her actual thoughts she has about this that I definitely know are worse than the chatgpt or whatever this statement is
Honestly she publicly bullied a lot of other female pop stars as she was coming up, so if I had to guess, body shaming, slut shaming, and calling others stupid.
but here you are posting an airbrushed-to-shit photo of yourself along with this "statement" because your ego is that fucking crazy you think it will help your argument??? girl i-
Why is “free Palestine” taken as an attack on Jewish people? In her own words, why should Jewish people feel threatened by a free state that preserves the human rights and dignity of Palestinians? Could it be, guilt? Is that why they also attack Jewish people that advocate for Palestinian human rights and call them fake Jews?
“To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters: criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you. My message is for peace; love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality.
“So I say Free Palestine, I say Free Lebanon, I say Free Cuba, I say Free Congo, Free Sudan, I say Free all people in America living in fear of this terrorist organization, ICE. None of us will be free until we are all free.”
Part of the actual quote she is saying was an attack on Jews, that they were “being targeted” at a concert. Wild.
She is realizing how deeply damaging this has been to her brand and is trying to back pedal. She has always been a mean idiot and now people are holding up a magnifying glass to the rest of her career. I love that for her. May her career and image be forever ruined.
A lot of whining, multiple times throughout those paragraphs, about how people are presuming what she thinks and how the words of the thing she reposted aren’t her words and how people just put words in her mouth, etc.
I noticed two things between all of that self aggrandizing woe is me nobody understands me pablum. 1) She never got around to explicitly stating her position beyond “celebrating dead kids is bad,” (though she certainly implied it via her word choice) and 2) she outright lied about what Macklemore said.
She claims that Macklemore showed “violent images of a war,” and that he “then took the mic to tell all of the Jews in the stadium that it wasn’t about them.” She then decided that no, what he said actually IS about all Jews.
That’s also not what he actually said, exactly. He said, correctly, “To all my Jewish brothers and sisters, criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you.”
So in between multiple reiterations of “waaaah you’re putting words in my mouth for thinking I agree with the thing I reposted,” she decided to double down on putting words in Macklemore’s mouth. Vapid, hypocritical, whiny, and callous.
The people who didn’t read her paragraphs of drivel made the right choice. Free Palestine.
“I’ve been quiet in my own words for a week” uhh I’m not super sure posting 6000 memes about “being real” in response to criticism regarding being unhappy somebody stood on a stage and said “Palestinian lives matter” is really as quiet as you think P!nk
At this current moment, I feel as though it is in my best interest to not use my time to look through what has been written. Instead I shall say the fact that the state of Palestine needs to be liberated from the current ongoing genocide being brought upon by Israel.
Read all of it. How centrist and disgusting to call it a war. Like the Palestinians have any way to fight back while they’re being slaughtered. Free Palestine
Free Palestine 🇵🇸. BTW, people need to stop conflating being antizionist with being antisemitic when they are called out for supporting Israel. Thats inherently antisemitic and undermines all the Jewish people actively calling for an end to the genocide
Once again this is not about how you feel Pink, the chants had nothing to do with you until you made them about you, now you cry that people are being mean to you because you echoed calls for censorship.
I read it. no one’s attacking Jewish families, tf? We are condemning the Israeli government and upset that she’s complacent by mocking people who support Palestine on her public social media
That’s a lot of words to say, “I overreacted and I am remembering something shitty someone did, but I am perfect and I am JEWISH and I am making this about ME. And I won’t say FREE PALESTINE because WHAT ABOUT ME?!”
I saw a video of zionists painting their face and teeth to look like palestinians and running their water and turning lights on and off as a “flex.” Even before that but especially after that i knew which side to be on
Yeesh. I did read it all because I’m curious how she’s trying to rationalize this stuff and it’s all a bunch of nonsense, victimhood that barely even touches on her reason for lashing out. She says that Macklemore saying Free Palestine and showing images from the genocide (“war”) somehow made her and all the jewish folk attending “scared” or threatened but doesn’t feel like explaining how? Like are we supposed to just be like “what a scary and aggressive guy calling for a free Palestine.”
Then she also brought up some sketch shit Macklemore did a decade ago (that he got reemed for), basically calling him antisemitic without having the courage to do so. Dude if you wanna call him that, say it with you chest, don’t sprinkle in things like it’s some genius explanation. But she’s a coward and trying to act like she’s some honest and tough warrior for the truth. Once again a brutal lack of self awareness from someone who’s begging to be the victim whilst perpetuating a genocide.
TLDR: Wah wah wah, Ive always been unpopular for my opinions, Ive always stood on the right side of history, don't hate me for being on the wrong side this once, I'm always the victim, Ive done more for society and minorities than any of you ever have, so being a Zionist is okay and you should let it go.
I love when people do something and then take issue with your interpretation and acknowledgement of the thing they did, as if they didn't do it and you didn't see it. Then they end their lack of accountability response by dismissively reminding you that people have bigger problems in life.
And by love, I mean it's insufferable and so is she but we knew that already.
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