r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks ALL HAIL THE DRAGON KING NIBELUNG 25d ago

Official Vodyanitsa

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u/HaeteaElina 25d ago edited 25d ago

Hopefully i can get her and vesna and then the tsarista and then mitya-

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u/Stiff_Rebar 25d ago

May 10 pity double 5-stars bless us all

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u/kamanami 25d ago

ohh ...

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u/KingOfTheKitsune 25d ago

You can do it 👏🏼 in Nod krai I got lucky and got almost all the characters (I didn't pull Lohen, and I lost Linnea).

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u/SpellOpening7852 25d ago

I didn't get Lohen or Nefer, and lost on Varka and Nicole (Nicole defo hurts the most).

But I also did two weapon banners, and got Nilou, Venti and Yae. So my approach this version is, only pull on characters I 100% want (so Vesna is a skip for me, also because I have C2 Mizuki who I like playing as is), and NO WEAPON BANNERS.

Think I can just barely guarantee Vodyanitsa if she's 2nd half, but definitey concerned about 7.2. Out of everyone else rn, I think Danica and Valeriy are skips for me outright, Mitya is a maybe, and Tsaritsa and (if he becomes playable) Pierro are guaranteed pulls for me.

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u/KingOfTheKitsune 25d ago

Ooof Nicole would definitely hurt. I lost Linnea so I saved my guarantee for her, and ended up getting C1. (Hoping to get C2 on her rerun if it isn't in the middle of my must pulls).

Yeah C2 Mizuki should be good! I'm planning on picking her from the standard banner selector if we have one for the anniversary.

I tried Varka's weapon and got Flins' which I wasn't mad at. Got C2 Zibai (and only C4 Illuga ☠️) and I didn't pull on any other weapon banners.

I think you've a good plan of pull for your musts first. I'm planning on trying Vodyanitsa, and if I win, great. If I lose, save it for another character. Interested in Mitya, Noy and the Tsaritsa. Reruns I'd like Linnea and Nicole.

Let's hope we can both get who we want 😂

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u/SpellOpening7852 25d ago

I wish you good luck as well!

I've definitely also been turned off of going for constellations, gotta be a good mix of brave and lucky for that. I'm just going to stick to HSR and ZZZ as the games for me where I get to invest in teams like that, since I can actually manage two accounts for each when it'd be unrealistic for me for genshin

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u/whalatix 25d ago

Same the only one I'm missing is Ineffa (lost pity) and Linnea (but I wasn't interested in this one)

I was throwing EVERYTHING I had for Durin and I won the 50/50 and got him early 🫪

I buy welkin though.

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u/ChaosKinZ 25d ago

How? It was so dry as a F2P it was the region where I got the less characters and weapons

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u/KingOfTheKitsune 25d ago

I was quite lucky, and I'm not F2P. I buy the welkin and sometimes the battle pass.

Got Ineffa in 12 pulls. Lost 50/50 on Durin, Columbina, and Linnea. But I lost Durin's 50/50 very early. Linnea I didn't get as I saved the guarantee for Nicole. I also lost the 50/50 on both Sumeru and Fontaine banner but got Dehya C4 and Emilie C1. Which I was fine with.

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u/Individual-Sea-4544 25d ago

I hope rng gods also bless you with free danica and noy too and dainsleif if he’s actually in 7.8 and every other khaenrian character as well🫡🫡

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u/HaeteaElina 25d ago

Thanks bb u too

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u/BinhTurtle - Pie & Cap Enjoyer 25d ago

I kinda think Mitya will be released before Anastasya in 7.2, ngl

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u/FlyingRencong -Furina Fontainian Fan 25d ago

I pray you get them, because I have similar aspirations too

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u/slothesaurus 25d ago

I'm not as brave as you and need to save for tsaritsa but I am cheering you on!!! I hope you get multiple cons for each of them! Wishing easy gold pulls for you! 🙏🥺✨✨✨✨✨

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u/HaeteaElina 24d ago

Ty u will get tsarista c6 in ten pulls

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u/jacobwhkhu Furina Fanatic 💦 25d ago

and then Danica and then Noy and then hot daddy Pierro (my copium fueled ass says he's gonna be playable) and then Capitano when he can finally get up his damn chair after Ronova's defeat and then-

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u/Elentrax 25d ago

Not to burst your bubble, but if they actually kill Ronova to get rid of the curse of death affecting progression, considering that her death would actually do that, what would keep the curse of immortality in place?
In my mind khaenrians immediately dying makes the most sense in this scenario.
But knowing hoyo they will probably just send her on her redemption arc and everything is going to be fine.

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u/pyre_light 25d ago

I don't think we are going to *kill* Ronova per se, just incapacitate her to some degree using the rules HP set for her.

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u/nihilism16 Harbingers collector (except Childe) 25d ago

Me who got sandrone then Odette and wants vodya and vesna and mitya and tsaritsa

I think I'll have to wait to get vodya after the tsaritsa, I need enough for at least c0r1

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u/luihgi 25d ago

welp time to explore sumeru ig

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u/bluedragjet -An IQ Too High 25d ago

Better pray Vodyanitsa end up as a random standard character because the amount of luck you need for this outcome to happen is insane

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u/HaeteaElina 25d ago

It will happen trust 🙏

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u/rinmejoy 24d ago

we can if we try!!

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u/707-exe ALL HAIL THE DRAGON KING NIBELUNG 25d ago

"... Oh, enough, Paraskeva, I know. I'll hit those high notes, no sweat! And Xenia... Xenia, I've already memorized your piece by heart, too. I won't forget a single note. I won't..."
— Vodyanitsa talking to herself in the backstage dressing room

◆ Name: Vodyanitsa
◆ Title: Lingering Siren-Song
◆ Prima Donna of the Korolevskiy Troupe
◆ Vision: Hydro
◆ Constellation: Piscicula Aurea

Vodyanitsa: Lingering Siren-Song
Prima Donna of the Korolevskiy Troupe

A long, long time ago in Snezhnaya, Water Imps dwelled all over the city. Some sang glorious melodies on the stage, while others cheerfully hummed lighthearted tunes through the streets and alleyways. Then there were the others who preferred to slip into the water, where they would lure curious passersby to the water's edge with their haunting, dreamlike songs, only to then suddenly leap up and splash the unsuspecting onlookers full in the face before vanishing, giggling, back beneath the surface with a flick of their tails, leaving their victims floundering between anger and laughter...

But, as time passed, the stages and alleyways of Snezhnaya quietly lost their singers, and the melodies beneath the waters, carried by unseen currents, began flowing soundlessly toward a distant silence. People began to whisper uneasily among themselves, wondering if those haunting songs from the deep might drift away from them forever...

Then, one morning, people learned that Vodyanitsa was still performing on the stage of Korolevskiy Theater, as though the days of old had never faded and the joy of bygone times had remained just as it always had been.
Hardly anyone knew why she stayed — nor did anyone dare ask her to her face, unless they were prepared to never secure another interview with Miss Vodyanitsa ever again.

Maybe, she had stayed on in order not to disappoint the audiences who so adored her singing? Or maybe she was just unwilling to exit that dazzling stage? Or perhaps... there were other reasons significant enough to make her swim against the current, even if it meant bidding farewell to her own kind...

But for Vodyanitsa's audience, delving into the answer to that question is utterly meaningless. The only thing that matters is that they can continue to listen to the captivating voice of the Water Imp.

Of course, if you want to be swept away by her song...
"Standing tickets? Uh, sorry, but we don't sell those here at the theater at the moment... And no, we don't allow our patrons to bring their own chairs either."

"Crack the doors open a little? The draft would leave everyone inside freezing..."

"My apologies, but the theater isn't hiring any day cleaners at the moment!"

... First, you need to get a ticket.

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u/Cocoatrice Kinich 25d ago edited 23d ago

Did... did they really gave her constellation "Silver fishie"??? The -cula means that something is little.

EDIT: It was supposed to be golden, like gold fish. Not sure why I said silver.

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u/Castell_vs 25d ago

She’s a gold fishie as a mythological fish that can fulfill wishes. In Russia for example the most popular version was recorded by Pushkin in his fairy tale in verse“The Tale of the Fisherman and the Fish”. And he did use a diminutive there so “fishie” seems appropriate.

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u/Cocoatrice Kinich 23d ago

Yeah, not sure why I mistook it for silver. I actually had to memorize the entire text from the tale and recite it long time ago in elementary school.

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u/Alynay27 25d ago

Isn't aurum Latin for Gold? I thought silver was argentum? Either way that's super cute, I love that she's a little fishie

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u/Ahuranni 25d ago

You're correct, Piscicula Aurea would essentially translate to "Gold Fish," although Aurea is actually from the word Aureus, not Aurum, which would be more like "Gold-plated Fish" or "Gilded Fish" if I understand my latin correctly!

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u/FlyingRencong -Furina Fontainian Fan 25d ago

Some days ago I saw a post about her having silver accessories meanwhile her matryoshka has gold. Hmmm

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u/Cocoatrice Kinich 23d ago

Yes, it is. I have no idea why I mistook it for silver, lol.

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u/Willster328 25d ago

I think its Latin for "Little Blue Fish"

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u/FlyingRencong -Furina Fontainian Fan 25d ago

I wonder what happened to her kind

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u/Top-Idea-1786 25d ago

You can learn a bit about it in the book "a brief history of the pale starborn", the water imps cut all ties with Snezhnaya after the Tsaritsa ascended to the throne and dismantled the fae nobility.

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u/Nearby-Research-9834 comrade alyosha’s freckles 25d ago edited 25d ago

The fact that she stayed behind after all her loved ones left so that she could keep telling their stories and make sure her people aren’t forgotten is so incredibly heartbreaking. It really sold her as a character for me.

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u/Ulq-kn 25d ago

do we know where all the rest of her folk went exactly?

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u/MuirgenEmrys 25d ago

How old do we think she is, knowing this information?

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u/Necessary_Way_9460 25d ago

If I remember correctly, she said her people were banished when Tsaritsa became the Cryo Archon; so around 500 years ago like every other important event of Teyvat history.

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u/Maki_san <- N.1 capitano simp. C6R5 on release 24d ago

In the archon quest, she says she was small while the last Snezhnayan civil war was happening.

“So, was the conflict between fae and humans really that bad back then? I was only little, so I don’t remember much.” (Right after Shram leaves the theatre)

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u/Lemunite -Playable Zhiqiong waiting room 25d ago

Lol we got different drip vs splash back? Why they hiding the tail

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u/niki_lia Spent 3 years buying Kaeya constellations 25d ago

They do this with characters that have significant appearance changes as part of their kit. Cyno and Wanderer come to mind

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u/sitsuki_blue 25d ago

They also did it with lohen they hid his weapons in the drip marketing

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u/Stiff_Rebar 25d ago

Imagine cardboard box Kirara marketing

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u/thestrawberry_jam 1 musketeer man, pls 25d ago

true, though of all leg poses they couldve gone with for her i hate this one lol i just think it looks kinda awkward

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u/Cinbri 25d ago

Even Arlecchino wasn't shown with wing.

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u/AltruisticAioli2310 24d ago

what does this mean? im sorry if my question sounds like an insult i just didn't get the difference you're pointing at.

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u/Duzsty 24d ago

In her leaked splash art aka her wishing splash art it looks like this but with her mermaid tail and her modified outfit changes instead

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u/kkacchanno RERIR MY SOULMATE 25d ago

my cute patootie fish girl

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u/Knight_Steve_ 25d ago

We got a real mermaid

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u/J19_ Danica defender 25d ago

yo she's falling somebody catch her

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u/AgentWowza Sir, a second nail has hit Khaenriah 25d ago

places a bucket of water on the floor under her

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u/LackingSimplicity 80/90 is the way 25d ago edited 25d ago

Poor girl saw her kit and fell over in disgust 😔

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u/Rice_Caek 25d ago edited 25d ago

Wait how bad is she?

Edit: Seeing all the helpful responses… that’s crazy…

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u/railgunsix 25d ago

Even without going into leak and number. Her being Hydro while supporting Stellar Swirl or Superconduct is really questionable.

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u/Ve_nuhs 25d ago

Stellar-Freeze, surely

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u/rieldex anemo twink connoisseur 25d ago

in some teams she's calced as a downgrade to c6 faru iirc... tho keep in mind beta is stc

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u/VorticalHeart44 25d ago

Is she even meant for Stellar Swirl atp?

Isn't she the 4th slot for Skirk/Escoffier/Furina teams?

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u/Blaubeerchen27 25d ago

Her kit supports both by having cryo and hydro res shred, but overall most pf her kit is meant for stellar swirl.

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u/Routine_Television46 25d ago

I'd love to see how these 'some teams' fare against aggressive enemies without sustain options or IR. 

She is bad, sure. But comfy all the same. Sheet impact/dps dummy impact doesnt translate well into actual gameplay.

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u/Professional_Dot9888 Umamusume: Zibai Derby 25d ago

The bigger issue is that C2 and even C1 Mizuki is also pretty close to Vesna+Vodya teams and that team always has a sustain by default. So she's not a sheet DPS character or a comfort character.

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u/Routine_Television46 25d ago

Yeah, I'll make do with mizuki as well. Until Tsaritsa is revealed. 

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u/RicketyRekt69 25d ago

Comfort options don’t last long unfortunately. We’re past the Zhonglis and Kokomi’s, healers / shielders have to bring more than the minimum.

The issue is Vod applies hydro when her kit is designed for Stellar (cryo) reactions.. and for Skirk she’s practically a side grade. It’s like there were 2 competing designs for her and they just mashed them together and called it a day.

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u/Far-Law411 Knight of Flowers 25d ago

tbf besides vensa every other relevant dps already has sustain, namely skirk and mizuki. not to mention she just a straight up downgrade than c1 sucrose in terms of dmg

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u/Routine_Television46 25d ago

Idk, Im skipping vesna and getting vodya. If it turns out Tsaritsa is a Cmc promax for vesna teams then I'll get her on the rerun. 

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u/Tori_Brown 25d ago

There's a reason why sustainless Nefer teams are so playable it's because the only hard content where DPS matters is Stygian and in there if you get hit you just reset so you don't need sustain.

Sure sustainless is tough in Abyss if you're doing all 3 chambers consecutively but who cares about Abyss difficulty it's current year

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u/Routine_Television46 25d ago

You dash cancel and IF all the time with nefer. You dont need to use her AA in order to get dews. 

Vesna needs them iirc, and cant dash out mid AA string and continue. 

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u/Tori_Brown 25d ago

The importance of Vodya over Faruzan in Vesna will depend on how aggressively the SSW Shill boss attacks

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u/Ultenth 25d ago

Exactly, Nefer is very comfy sustainless because of how much Iframes she gets, meanwhile Vesna gets almost none and thus really really needs a sustain.

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u/Exkirion 25d ago

Kokomi flashbacks.

Everyone said she was really bad and then she came out and as it turned out to be, she was pretty good just because of her application

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u/LorenzoVec 25d ago

Kokomi was buffed on preload to double her Hydro application from off field.

How come nobody mentions Sigewinne? She too is a Hydro healer with quills. Easy synergy with Furina and yet she was for the whales only.

I'm not going to say anything about Vodyanitsa. If she's weak she'll be buffed and if she's good she won't. I'm sure they know what they're doing now compared to three years ago.

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u/Exkirion 25d ago

Might offend some Sigewinne fans, but she was and is just bad overall. HP scaling on a weapon that had no proper F2P variant with HP not even BP so you had to roll for weapon to even use her properly, her healing was worse than dedicated hydro healer and her damage was worse than sub dps. She requires a lot of investemt to get a worse result than Barbara and she can't even hold TTDS.

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u/que_sarasara 25d ago

Yeah but she's cute 🥺

I'm her biggest fan but yeah a four star generally outperforms her in almost every way, she's kinda terrible and is the weak link in my teams..but oh my gosh look how cute she is! I even pulled her bow.

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u/Exkirion 25d ago

Perfectly valid reason.

I'd also die on the hill that Jahoda is actually at least good and want to use her because I like her a lot.

I'd also love to use Yoimiya but unfortunately she is genuinly too weak by now to use for any serious endgame.

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u/Crazy_Scarcity6342 25d ago

Never throw away your favs because of meta!! As much as powercreep has been goingin Genshin it's not like even to this day you need to just use the Top 1 or sink, investment always pays off if you're mindful about it

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u/Exkirion 25d ago

Unfortunately Yoimiya was never broken enough to last too long as main dps and her constellations are really REALLY bad. The first few just enhances her basically useless ult.

She needs a major overhaul like Qiqi and I'd appriciate a skin as well XD

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u/Frogsama86 25d ago

Yoimiya is also fucked by the garbage bow AA system. I played enough AA Fischl on launch to understand. Your arrows could just whizz by an enemy's shoulder from them running towards you. No surprise we never had another dedicated bow AA character.

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u/burstzane001 Have a good day!~ 25d ago

you put too much faith in kit designers

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u/merurunrun COLUMBEAM!! 25d ago

It's funny, I came back to the game after two years and saw a bunch of people saying, "At least we don't get characters with bad kits anymore," and that made me happy because a string of characters with great designs and garbage kits was part of what made me quit. And then a couple months later we get Vodya...

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u/LorenzoVec 25d ago

Haha, I hope not. I'm getting Vodyanitsa but not Vesna so I need to survive with Mizuki for the patch cycle (and I hope Wanderer eventually becomes Stellar too).

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u/Youspellpoorly 24d ago

Why is Kokomi so frequently brought up as counter points for theorycrafters "getting things wrong"? They were right.

Kokomi WAS REALLY BAD in beta. She had to get a significant application buff to be usable and even then she was decent but never really top of the meta for any notable time period.

Vody is currently not good. If in v3 she gets +10000% to every MV, would that add another example to your collection? Of course everyone (with a brain) understands that a character who is bad now could get giga buffed.

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u/Cocoatrice Kinich 25d ago

Aw, crap, here we go again. Doomposters never sleep. If I had a nickel for every time I heard this very sentence, I would be multi trillionaire by now.

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u/spoookyboi_ Lord Childe's Eternal Simp Servant 25d ago

Shes just generally not great. Her calcs, at best currently, just barely improve the teams shes meant to be in. Will most likely get changed but right now she's giving sidegrade

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u/Iskandor13 25d ago

She’s a very unnecessary pull

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u/BellalovesEevee 25d ago

Actually pretty nice to hear that because I probably won't have enough to pull for both her and Vesna lmao

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u/BlueFHS 25d ago

Daamn fr? I’m waiting till the end of the beta if she ends up being good or BiS for stellar swirl, or Skirk or Hydro Varka to have an alternative team in Imaginarium, but if she just stays being bad, it also works for me so I can keep saving. Sucks for the people that like her tho 🥲

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u/Odd-Economist3959 25d ago edited 25d ago

She's BiS for Skirk.

Side grade on stellar swirl. The numbers before the usual v3 changes are just bit lower than current alternative, but she got the sustain on her favor.

For varka from what I've seen, it's BiS for hydro teams, but it's rather underwhelming.

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u/Wastable 25d ago

She’s marginally better. If you consider pull value, getting cons on Skirk or Escoffier would give a bigger increase

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u/RicketyRekt69 25d ago

Don’t be misleading, she only improves the team verryyyy marginally lol so marginal that pulling any of the cons for Skirk, Escoffier, or Furina would be more dps

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u/PatronioPrime 25d ago

Well I still think having an entirely new character would be more valuable than slightly more marginal dps increase lol

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u/Beta382 25d ago

Side grade on stellar swirl

This is kinda crazy given that her SSW quills are ostensibly the same strength as Lauma's, but without the case where Nefer has a fuckton of Reaction DMG diluting them. Does Vesna just have huge MVs? Or is it that she doesn't have off-field teammates to utilize them like Lauma has Columbina?

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u/GazerLazer 25d ago

Not really bad per say, but her kit is literally shifted to c1 and signature. Her kit is just a nothing burger of healing and res shred at C0R0.

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u/Cocoatrice Kinich 25d ago

Literally this was said about so many characters and doomposters were never right.

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u/Youspellpoorly 24d ago

Weird comment. The leaks subreddit in aggregate has been pretty accurate about character strength for the last 4 years or so with only Raiden being understood incorrectly.

Every single "doomposted" character was in fact accurately understood. Yes, that includes Nicole, Lohen, Varka, Yumemizuki, Sigewinne, Dehya, etc. And calling people like Nicole a sidegrade to Bennett isn't doomposting if that's someone you were considering to use as an example.

This isn't early 2020 Genshin theorycrafting anymore. We have had accurate calcs and sheets for characters for years. The meta in the endgame modes in both EN and CN as uploaded to various sites has reflected what is theorycrafted in this sub.

Unless you are talking about random one off commenters who say things like Flins will be bad. But if that's your argument than literally nothing can ever be discussed about anything since we can always find one rando somewhere commenting something that essentially no one else agrees with.

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u/Interesting-Summer18 25d ago

In Skirk teams she's an upgrade. Not a lot, and maybe even less if you've got some vertical investments into Shenhe/Yelan/Citlali (there's also the factor of replacing Yelan/Citlali in Skirk team so you can field them in another one, so that's always good). So... kinda ok.

In Vesna teams she's a sidegrade right now. She's actually worse than Cryo Traveller but not by that much. You want to field Faruzan and Faruzan+CTrav is better but still, sidegrade. The issue is, CTrav is now C2. When you calculate C6 CTrav he completely blows Vodyanitsa out of the water and she's no longer a character you want to field in Vesna's team.

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u/Clear_Chocolate1468 24d ago

She's worse than Skirk cons for Skirk team and not a large upgrade to Cryo MC for Stellar Swirl, while also messing up some Stellar Swirl team comp flexibility as she requires more Cryo app to offset her being a Hydro char in a team that doesn't want Hydro app

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u/StanOsho 25d ago

I feel like with almost every character we always deduce they'll be bad but when they actually release they're meta af. I specifically remember Alhaitham leaks and the way everyone said he's mid. Turned out he'd be one of the strongest DPS of that time.

Only Dehya and Sigewinne turned out to be ACTUALLY bad. Since then, every 5* character released is at least decent.

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u/Youspellpoorly 24d ago

I feel like with almost every character we always deduce they'll be bad but when they actually release they're meta af

You feel wrong. It's odd how much this opinion has persisted over the last half decade.

Modern Genshin (basically since Raiden's release) has been VERY well understood by theorycrafters who in turn make videos and in turn this leak subreddit parrots their opinions over and over again. But since the TCs are pretty accurate, this subreddit's overall sentiment is pretty much always right, given at least a bit of time to watch those TC's videos to echo those sentiments.

I specifically remember Alhaitham leaks and the way everyone said he's mid. Turned out he'd be one of the strongest DPS of that time.

For like 1 day after the huge changes to all his multipliers was that the sentiment. Pretty much right after TCs cleared up that his team dps only changed by like 5% and he would still be good. He was a strong DPS because dendro was boosted and there weren't many alternatives to dendro main DPS, which again was understood. Here's a thread before his release to gauge the sentiment better https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/10cs8vz/kusanali_mains_34_pretc_breakdown_and_qa_thread/

Only Dehya and Sigewinne turned out to be ACTUALLY bad. Since then, every 5* character released is at least decent.

Yumemizuki was atrocious for 1.5 years. This sub is pretty accurate about characters.

For example Nicole was said to be mostly a sidegrade for Bennett outside of a couple specific teams, but the QoL can be worth the tradeoff for the smaller buff. This is accurate today.

Varka's non-pyro teams were said to be complete cope and even the pyro ones would require some pretty high investment and prune to make them anywhere close to the top DPS. That was spot on - without his sig, Nicole, Durin, and Prune, he's indeed pretty bad and to compete with something like the lunar shilled ones he needs a 4+ cost team with a c6 four star.

We predicted Lohen was going to be fine but not break any records. Yup, that's how it turned out.

I could go on and on. This sentiment that somehow Genshin is so complex that we can't correctly predict character strength has to die.

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u/phainini 25d ago

She's a small downgrade over c2 mc in vesna teams, and a pretty noticeable one if mc is at c6, she's also pretty bad in skirk teams as you'd rather get c2r1 skirk and c1r1 escoffier before even considering pulling for her there

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u/Fire_Pea 23d ago

She's not unusable but she's not necessary for any teams either. Honestly I hope they keep doing this, characters having teams that they're useful in without constantly upgrading teams and pushing power creep feels like a good thing. Of course if they keep power creeping with other characters and she's the only one who doesn't it'll feel bad though.

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u/Black-----Manta Strongest Aoo Gooo Main 25d ago

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u/Milk-lover-3000 25d ago

Brickyanitsa

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u/Beneficial-Air4943 25d ago

I like this poses already because way back then some of the poses are just standing/sitting and they put a background on it as a splash art. Thankfully it's getting more dynamic.

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u/fugogugo 25d ago

I love her personality but her kit is so bad

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u/icantdoanythingomg 25d ago

Does the kit really matter if you love the character? i love sigewinne but cant get her since i always run out of primos, im so getting her if the free character in anniv is true

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u/ezio45 25d ago

People will say "waifu over meta" but it's still nice to see your favorite characters provide good damage without requiring high levels of investment.

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u/Ve_nuhs 25d ago

Depending on who you are it does matter, not everyone plays with the same logic of another. No ones logic is negative if that's how they chose to play.

I like Yoimiya but her and basically every bow character (the ones that use the bow) are pretty lame to play. You could date a blind person and still love them but since there is something that's missing from them it feels bittersweet.

I rather not have that bittersweet feeling when pulling for a character, though I do make some expectations when it comes to their combat animations (Varka, Xiao, and Navia.. kinda).

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u/whalatix 25d ago

I'm never forgiving Yoimiya for auto targeting the Cicin flies spawned instead of the very low HP Cicin mage which costed me the 3* in Spiral a few years ago 😂 cracks me up

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u/Kallabanana 25d ago

Free standard banner character.*

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u/icantdoanythingomg 25d ago

noo, theres this leak that you can pick any older characters, i know 99% it would not happen but just saying

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u/Kallabanana 25d ago

Yeah, Hoyo isn't that generous.

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u/Wolf1741 25d ago

Genshin devs*

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u/brliron 23d ago

This sub is filled with meta slaves who aren't able to enjoy a character if they aren't meta.

It's also the doomposters' HQ.

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u/Gaelic_Flame 25d ago

I guess it depends. If I really like the char, but have literally no place to use them, then I won't pull, because it's kinda pointless since I won't really see/use them anyways... And I'd rather focus on pulling/getting cons for other chars I like.

In case of Vodyanitsa I'm not really decided though. I'll 100% be pulling Vesna, and I like Vodyanitsa, but with her current state I'll most likely rather go for Vesna's wep, if I still have enough pulls for that after I get Vesna.

What was the rumour about the free char btw? Is it basically the "Temper" event lineup? Not even sure who I'd pick if that's somehow ends up being true... Probably will just pick another Yae con or something...

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u/whalatix 25d ago

That definitely depends on people. I'll always pull for who I want. I pulled for Lohen and Varka despite all the doom posting about how mediocre they are compared to the other new DPS haha

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u/Interesting-Summer18 25d ago

It kinda does. If I am to pull a premium character that I won't use where I need a team to do it's job because I already have stronger characters, if I'm not going to play the character, why do I need to own them?
You can love a character and not pull for them.

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u/fugogugo 25d ago

yeah that's the issue

the game isn't generous enough for f2p to be so carefree to pick any character they want

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u/First_Listen_6420 25d ago

i feel like thats the main reason why i find genshin stingier compared to other games, you definitely have enough to invest in one meta premium team in each entire version, but you dont have enough to invest in a second premium for ur fav that isnt as meta because were finally in the package impact era. not to mention the choice of getting verticals too

its more flexible in other gachas

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u/Particular_Web3215 ALL ABOARD PALESTAR EXPRESS 25d ago

unfortuantely yes, there needs to be SOME level of strength for mains to not feel like an idiot for pulling bricks. for example ayaka mains grabbing escoffier, or cyno mains post buff.

varka for all his doomposting still has enough dmg with prune and his sig at the minimum, and his cons are not bad so varka mains feel more worth it pulling his durin and nicole's verticals.

i pulled sigewinne and she heals a lot and has funny bubble, that is an actual niche over many actually bad characters.

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u/troysama extremely salty ayato whiteknight 24d ago

lohen my favorite brick

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u/Kamina80 25d ago

The only real issue I have with her kit is Varka not being able to get the 30% anemo shred.

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u/IronPheasant 25d ago

It's ~460% dps of value at baseline plus healing. Doesn't require anything special beyond all your direct damage sources being ice or water or stellar swirl, which is a bit more open than most characters these days.

It's not peak slot value, but really what's 5k plus or minus of dps these days...

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u/NoPalpitation2846 25d ago

Why is she falling?

Can't she swim?

is she stupid?

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u/kkacchanno RERIR MY SOULMATE 25d ago

if ur drowning just swim

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u/Chucknasty_17 25d ago

God that pose is so good, hopefully she can get a kit worthy of her design

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u/NarukaHatsu Ororon's last braincell 25d ago

reject meta embrace singing fihh

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u/Russell-Sprouts3 C3/R1 Varesa haver 25d ago

Oh how I’m desperate for buffs for her, she’s easily my favourite Snezhnaya character so far, I need her to be good so bad.

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u/v-e-vey waiting for the next cute boy 25d ago

My queen 💙

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u/Ja_Blask 25d ago

I would pull her since my family has an aunt who worked as a soprano for the opera house and that this character just reminded me a lot of her and my childhood visiting her in a music college.

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u/the-roast 江田島 25d ago

Don't fall girlie

"...Oh, enough, Paraskeva, I know. I'll hit those high notes, no sweat! And Xenia... Xenia, I've already memorized your piece by heart, too. I won't forget a single note. I won't..."

— Vodyanitsa talking to herself in the backstage dressing room

A long, long time ago in Snezhnaya, Water Imps dwelled all over the city. Some sang glorious melodies on the stage, while others cheerfully hummed lighthearted tunes through the streets and alleyways. Then there were the others who preferred to slip into the water, where they would lure curious passersby to the water's edge with their haunting, dreamlike songs, only to then suddenly leap up and splash the unsuspecting onlookers full in the face before vanishing, giggling, back beneath the surface with a flick of their tails, leaving their victims floundering between anger and laughter...

But, as time passed, the stages and alleyways of Snezhnaya quietly lost their singers, and the melodies beneath the waters, carried by unseen currents, began flowing soundlessly toward a distant silence. People began to whisper uneasily among themselves, wondering if those haunting songs from the deep might drift away from them forever...

Then, one morning, people learned that Vodyanitsa was still performing on the stage of Korolevskiy Theater, as though the days of old had never faded and the joy of bygone times had remained just as it always had been.

Hardly anyone knew why she stayed — nor did anyone dare ask her to her face, unless they were prepared to never secure another interview with Miss Vodyanitsa ever again.

Maybe, she had stayed on in order not to disappoint the audiences who so adored her singing? Or maybe she was just unwilling to exit that dazzling stage? Or perhaps... there were other reasons significant enough to make her swim against the current, even if it meant bidding farewell to her own kind...

But for Vodyanitsa's audience, delving into the answer to that question is utterly meaningless. The only thing that matters is that they can continue to listen to the captivating voice of the Water Imp.

Of course, if you want to be swept away by her song...

"Standing tickets? Uh, sorry, but we don't sell those here at the theater at the moment... And no, we don't allow our patrons to bring their own chairs either."

"Crack the doors open a little? The draft would leave everyone inside freezing..."

"My apologies, but the theater isn't hiring any day cleaners at the moment!"

...First, you need to get a ticket.

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u/The_Strifemaster 25d ago

"... Oh, enough, Paraskeva, I know. I'll hit those high notes, no sweat! And Xenia... Xenia, I've already memorized your piece by heart, too. I won't forget a single note. I won't..." — Vodyanitsa talking to herself in the backstage dressing room

◆ Name: Vodyanitsa ◆ Title: Lingering Siren-Song ◆ Prima Donna of the Korolevskiy Troupe ◆ Vision: Hydro ◆ Constellation: Piscicula Aurea

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u/Blasterion 25d ago

It's Kokover, We got outfished

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u/Ok_Journalist5290 Only covers the latest scoop if it's stupidly cringe 24d ago

How? Do you even know kokomi is just the end of an anglerfish 🤭 so how is she outfished 🤭

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u/raideneiswife 25d ago

im pulling for everyone idgaf, she's my most favorite character by far, her voice is so cute, she is so cute, so funny, so demure, so perfect, her animations are perfect, kill me

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u/ThatWasNotWise 25d ago

I like her character design and story much more than odette but unfortunately I have no reason to get her. It's the same Nicole situation...

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u/QueerGothic 25d ago

I really loved nicole's personality and design but had to skip her bc i didn't really much use for her :(

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u/JenJenB_ 25d ago

I can't wait to get her & Vesna.

When can we expect the Tsaritsa again? I'm kind of out of the loop with Genshin & archon version patterns, it's usually in X.2, right?

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u/burnpsy 25d ago

Mavuika and Columbina were x.3, so we'll see. It's usually timed for the end of the region's main plot.

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u/NoteBlock08 25d ago

And Columbina was Luna.4. It's the long awaited Snezhnaya, and final of the seven nations. I imagine they're going to take their time with the story and give it the attention it deserves. 7.4 or maybe even 7.5 seems likely.

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u/burnpsy 24d ago

Luna 4 was 6.3 (remember that patch cycle started at Luna 1).

So I'm expecting 7.3 or 7.4.

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u/itseokjin tsaritsa waiting room 25d ago

7.3, after Mitya

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u/FlyingRencong -Furina Fontainian Fan 25d ago

Look how beautiful and cute our diva is! 😍

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u/kkacchanno RERIR MY SOULMATE 25d ago

i wish they brought back the completely separate drip sprites vs splash but also kept the separate splash sprites 

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u/nerd_reader_5159 25d ago

Girl, you complicate my spending so much

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u/MilkyHoody 25d ago

I wonder how old Vosyanitsa is since she does mention she was really young during the whole Day Aristocracy leaving Snezhaya (I assume she's a old noble), this would've been like 400-500 years ago when Tsaritsa came into power. We know Vesna is pretty young according to her drip like maybe only 100 years old or less but But Vosyanitsa could be like Sandrone or Columbina age.

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u/PokeFanBlaze1964 25d ago

As much as I really want to get Vodyanista, I wanna save up for the Tsaritsa more. I dont have enough time to save up to get both and I'm not on guaranteed either

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u/Asenathwaites -omg they were lightkeepers 25d ago

shes so cute but i'll have to skip her for now. saving for sweet mitya and my lady anastasya 🥰

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u/PascalGoester 25d ago

Her singing is so beautiful and I love her design.

Her personality was very different than I thought it would be and I love it!

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u/kernelpea 25d ago

My GOATFISH

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u/rvstrk 千織可愛すぎる 25d ago

KOKOMI PRO MAX 🐋🐬🦭🐳🦈

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u/EphemeralScribe 25d ago

Covered her up to avoid spoiling her mermaid form in gameplay?

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u/Knight_Steve_ 25d ago

Shouldn’t be because we see her in mermaid form in game already

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u/NotABotPC 25d ago

this is just their weird thing they do now because we used to get characters with 2 different splash arts now they just add variations to their single splash art

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u/E1lySym 25d ago

This pose is so RWBY Volume 9 promotional art coded

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u/mr_WhatzitTooya___ 25d ago

Calm down. Surely she'll be reworked for the new dendro reaction.

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u/Realistic_Sound913 25d ago

Thank god she's second half. More time to save!

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u/Seaglass2121 25d ago

Aww pretty brick, pretty brick 💙

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u/mhtred 25d ago

I want her but she's gonna be a big ass brick in my account 😆

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u/poppypierro 24d ago

shes so pretty...

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u/Fragrant-Lab-740 23d ago

Feet feet feet feet feet feet feet feet feet.

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u/JMViolins 21d ago

She is so, so pretty!

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u/Nemdeleter Foot Worshiper 25d ago

Feet

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u/Hankune 25d ago

I'ts Kokover

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u/REKLA5 25d ago

This looks so funny. Like she just tripped and is falling and reaching her hand out for someone to save her/pick her up. Why did they not use a different pose for her leg form? lol

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u/AksysCore 25d ago

interesting. possible alternate splash art maybe i hope

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u/feliciaax 25d ago

When are Mitya and Valeriy coming out?

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u/The_Maedre 25d ago

Allegedly 7.2

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u/feliciaax 25d ago

Thank you, kind stranger

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u/rdhight 25d ago

Why does she look like she's falling to her death?

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u/Plus_Word7744 25d ago

Her leak is a day after Vesna, does that means she's on Phase 2? or are they gonna be in Phase 1 together?

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u/Azrael956 25d ago

She’s cute and I like her mermaid form, but from what I’ve heard, she doesn’t really add much to any teams she works on. Like there’s better alternates

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u/Kamina80 25d ago edited 25d ago

Not exactly, she does seem like the "best" option for both Vesna and Skirk teams, it's just that you could run Vesna/Odette/Faruzan/Qiqi and on paper it's only slightly worse than Vesna/Odette/CMC/Vodyanitsa. On Skirk teams she's the clear best 4th slot although maybe not by the margin people want.

There are some "better" Vesna teams on the basis of having no healer/shielder on the team at all, but I don't think that's reasonable.

People are saying it's a problem that you could get a bigger damage increase for these teams by not getting her and instead getting a good constellation or weapon on someone else, which is valid but I think it's also reasonable to think that having a healer who shreds and buffs, and maybe is enjoyable to play, is valuable for one's account beyond a direct comparison in terms of vertical "cost."

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u/Azrael956 25d ago

It’s like I’d pull her for skirk, but I’ll be replacing skirk as my cryo dps with the tsaritsa (if she’s a dps) so idk if she’s a good pull rn for me as much as I want her

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u/Ok_Meringue_6283 25d ago

She looks like Columbina and Lauma design wise

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u/Kallabanana 25d ago

Kokomi has been really quit as of late.

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u/nsadeqve 25d ago

I want her, mitya and tsaritsa. Pray for me guys 🙏

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u/Tuuki 25d ago

She's SO pretty (my favorite female character from Snezh) but oh man her kit isn't doing her any favors. Especially when I'm broke after Nod Krai

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u/Particular_Truth_938 25d ago

She’s so pretty 😍 

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u/sleepisme 25d ago

i have sandrone. should i try pulling for odette (now at 30 pull but confirmed) or save for vodyanista? or should i go for vesna instead?

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u/Ok_Journalist5290 Only covers the latest scoop if it's stupidly cringe 24d ago

Odette.

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u/knetka 25d ago

Is the hydro symbol meant to look soo geo?

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u/d-charizar 24d ago

Sorry if this is wicked atupid but is there really no chance we’ll get stellar freeze to make her make more sense?? We weren’t 100% sure of lunar crystallize before it happened so maybe it gets enabled by a new upcoming five star the same way it went with zibai

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u/Positive_Neutron Nahihi come here we got a whole new region to burn 24d ago

I mean... how much sense does a stellar support not activating stellar reactions

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u/xtwelve0 24d ago

Is she good?

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u/Vintage_Glass 24d ago

She is sooo lovely

I can’t wait to get her 🌸🌸🌸

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u/Gingamonk86 23d ago

Do we know if her and Vesna or 5* or 4*?

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u/C_Khoga 23d ago

Wah this is new pose. I like it.

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u/Dizzy-Wrangler7101 19d ago

Would she work good with odette? I don't have her and I'm not sure if I should get

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u/kgrey38 2d ago

poor Kokomi getting thematically powercrept