r/SipsTea • u/flattenedbricks • 6h ago
WTF Was 9/11 st*ged?
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u/revengeanceow 6h ago
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u/ThickHipslover 5h ago
The alphabet organization is working overtime with mixing so many conspiracies so people just get desensetize and like "Yeah, so what?"
Refusal isn't bad, but knowing truth and still keeping eye shut is.
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u/SignificanceFlat1460 3h ago
Don't forget, there are still people who think CIA being involved in death of Kennedy as conspiracy theory when there already has been ruling that they were unloved in his killing and that there were more than 1 shooter
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u/Regulai 4h ago
A lot of this is a combination of clever framing and connecting dots in a way to make things look far more like what they want it to sound like.
A classic example of this kind of logic would be pointing out that Clinton's enemies keep dying and listing them out (a popular conspiracy). Looks pretty bad until you compile a list of all their political enemies and realise the total deaths are less than the national average, so it's perfectly normal to have that many deaths out of that many people.
Essentially framing things out of context so it appears bad when the reality isn't quite that way. It's a lot like claiming pillows are actually hard not soft and then exclusively showing the hard metal zipper while hiding the rest of the pillow.
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u/Either_Pangolin531 3h ago
Reality is mundane and boring
Imagination is fun and spectacular.
People pick and choose to live where they want most days
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u/Yesyesyes1899 31m ago
building number 7, operation northwoods, the cia / mossad / al kaida connection, the project for a new american century, the bin laden/ bush connection and the missing 26? pages of the 9/11 report make 9/11 more of a mystery.
modern history is full of false flag attacks. ww2 and the Vietnam war were started that way.
history is also full of conspiracies by powerful people. ever heard of epstein and his gang ? right now, we have a live coverup going on, that involves the whole system.
you can do, as you are doing, a magical handwave and ignore all of that. but dont pretend, you going down the rational truth based road. thats lacking intellectual humilty.
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u/SignificanceFlat1460 3h ago
There is a difference between clear coincidence and active conspiracy to deny facts. No one is saying stupid stuff like that they were rockets and what not but alot of the things don't make sense. CIA knew and warned of attacks 2 months prior yet nothing happened. They had many occasions to take out OBL but didn't do it. Defense spending jumped and Pentagon was giving out contracts like free candy to anyone. Mass surveillance was triggered. NSA became a household name. So much shit happened but numbnuts still say "AhH BuT ItS AlL JuSt A CoInCiDeNcE YoU ArE JuSt ParAnOiD". Same shit they said until when the proof of Kennedy being assassinated by CIA didn't become an actual fact
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u/Regulai 3h ago
For example: warned of attacks? Sure but they get literally hundreds of warnings like that every month and 99.999% of the time no actual attack happens.
That's actually one of the best examples of something that sounds bad in a vacuum but in context it's actually fairly insignificant. It's the quality and reliability of intelligence, not the fact that it exists at all, that matters.
Or why not take him out earlier? Initially he was regarded mainly as a financier rather than organiser, and when the CIA started to get more interested, many of their plans of the era were considered low probability of success with the political collateral viewed as high risk e.g. they often didn't want to cause an international incident for say a 5% chance of killing him, when it's not like the organisation vanishes when he dies.
And my point isn't "it's a coincedence" it's that many of the points aren't even notable facts to begin with, they are just being framed to make it sound notable.
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u/Impure_guava 5h ago
Who is the guy being interviewed that he says “never existed”?
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u/Pretty-Cockroach6394 4h ago
Its Barry L. Jennings
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/239954740/barry-jennings
Barry Jennings was a survivor of events of 9/11. At the time, he was the Deputy Director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority. He was rescued from WTC Building 7 by a long ladder, before it collapsed at 5:20 p.m. Jennings disappeared in 2008, reportedly dead of natural causes, but his family also disappeared at the same time.
On August 19, 2008, 53 year old Barry Jennings died, two days before the release of the NIST Final Report on the collapse of WTC7. Jennings was Deputy Director of Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority.
One of multiple credible civilians who testified in interviews they heard explosions coming from the basement / parking lot.
This compilation is made by James Corbett from Corbett Report who made a bunch of really informative documentaries on this subject based on his own researched, all sourced and citated. He goes into details on other 7 people listed after him in his documentaries.
https://corbettreport.com/corbett-report-documentaries/
can find his longer works here, truly amazing stuff.
9/11 rabbit hole goes waaaaay too deep, people also forget the Exxon investigation was located in WTC towers so that basically came to a halt same with Pentagon bombing at the precise quarter where the budget staff was looking for missing 8 trillions announced by Rumsfeld the day before.
Quite convinient since no one asked shit about those afterwards lol.
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u/WallyOShay 3h ago
Is it possible to sounds of explosions were foundations and support beams buckling under the weight?
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u/KaszualKartofel 2h ago edited 2h ago
Rumsfeld was referring to transaction documentation not that the money itself was missing. He was saying the DoD needs to better document its accounting.
It’s always with these people saying the rabbit hole’s soo deep dude! And then never actually looking into the rabbit hole itself because it would require confronting the fact, that it’s not deep, they just need to feel like they know the special truth only a few people are aware of.
Also SEC had copies of the Enron (I’m not sure why you said Exxon) investigation documentation. Wy wasn’t their HQ in Washington attacked also?
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u/GroteKneus 6h ago edited 5h ago
Stoged? Stiged? Steged? Oh, you mean the forbidden word staged?
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u/Outrageous-Basis-910 5h ago
Why go to all this effort when you just let a known terrorist plot happen?
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u/GravityMaxi 4h ago
Larry Silverstein insurance and a false flag to galvanise the population and bring about a new American Century.
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u/Expert-Guard6216 4h ago
Operation Northwoods was an excuse to start a war with Cuba. They were gonna use the outrage of the american people to get permission to start a war.
9/11 was an excuse to start a war in the middle east. The same day all major news networks showed footage of people in the middle east celebrating the towers falling. Of course America was outraged and guess what? They now had permission to start a war.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 9m ago
Yeah, the Larry Silverstien insurance part of this is just people not understanding how courts or the insurance work.
Silverstien had a batch of insurance polices on the world trade center that covered up to $3.55 billion of losses in a single event. 9/11 happens and the insurance policy says they're going to pay out $3.55 Billion, but Silverstien says "2 planes = 2 events = $7.1 Billion" and then there's a court case to determine if this was 1 or 2 events.
The court found that based off the language, in some of the policies this would count as 2 events, and the language in other policies would treat 9/11 as one event, so he was able to get $4.58 Billion dollars of payout from this.
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u/herefromyoutube 14m ago
That’s what actually happened.
GOV employees in intel told their bosses about a pending attack on American soil. Somewhere in chain of command (probably at the very top) it was simply ignored.
Bush wanted to goto Iraq and 9/11 was his green card.
I imagine though that they didn’t really think it would be as bad as it was.
There was a government that assisted but it was ours.
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u/Outrageous-Basis-910 4h ago
I'm sure at any one time there are dozens of terrorist plots against the US in various stages of planning that the CIA are aware of and monitoring or acting against. I have no idea if 9/11 was an inside job or not, but if it were, it would be much simpler to just let something happen than plan it yourself, and would require a much smaller circle of co-conspirators.
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u/Brick_Cabin2529 3h ago
the thing is, as we often need reminding, Jewish people are not a monolith. the house of Jacob and the house of Esau for instance, just one distinction.
we are also hearing from many survivors who speak of appropriate societal facades covering for unsavory practices and organizations well-concealed from mass awareness.
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u/Icy-Football9146 6h ago
The biggest reason that I don't believe these theories..... Involves so many people in the government keeping their mouth shut.
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u/Dry-Poem6778 5h ago
Well, right now in South Africa(I'm South African) a commission of inquiry into corrupt police and politicians(The Madlanga Commission) is uncovering Apartheid era shenanigans, that implicate the ANC... Shenanigans that happened between 1992-2006.
10s of 1000s of people were involved.
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u/Floppydiskpornking 5h ago
1000 FBI agents worked on scrubbing Trumps name from the Epstein files. Litterally pedophilia of the worst kind. Not one has come clean about this. Maybe its not so strange why someone who orchesteated 9 11 wont tell anyone about it.
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u/Wheresmyarcpaulie69 5h ago
Well, to quote the show “Archer”:
“We will sue you so hard, your grandkids will need lawyers”
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u/patterninstatic 5h ago
Actually pretty poor example since it happened recently, it's common knowledge that it happened, and it's common knowledge that Trump's name is in the files.
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u/Antique-Resort6160 3h ago
What can you tell us about that? We likely only know Trump's in the files because it's q useful way to influence him. How many clients can you name that were prosecuted?
Seems like the thousands of people connected to Epstein are all doing a great job protecting each other.
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u/Floppydiskpornking 1h ago
Wtf u mean? Noone is being prosecuted or investigated, Maxwell is given a fucking puppy in her new country club prison. The files being witheld etc.
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u/Comprehensive_View91 5h ago
1000 FBI agents
where did you get that number from, because it seems absurdly high
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u/hazri 5h ago
The 1000 number reported by various news media (CNBC, NBC, etc). Here is one from TIME
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u/letsdoit131 5h ago
Ppl are funny. Either there is a deep state or there isnt..that it exists is said by left and right for decades.
Ppl saying that FBI protecting pedos is normal but then 911 is a no no? Thats very selective
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u/Haunting_Song7313 5h ago
I mean if Israel is behind it then it makes sense because they can shut you down quickly.
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u/hpstg 4h ago
The fact we even know the money they spent doing this is literal proof that nothing stays secret.
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u/Floppydiskpornking 1h ago
They litterally withold the files and disregard victims claiming there is nothing in the files they wont release
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 5h ago
But the fact they did it leaked. So your example proves a coverup is impossible without leaks.
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u/Floppydiskpornking 1h ago
They are successfully covering it up right now , if you havent fucking noticed, there is no releasing and no investigations
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u/untitledprp4 6h ago
Everyone kept their mouths shut about Epstein
So this logic is flawed
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u/FrighteningJibber 5h ago
I'm no they didn't? Just takes forever for everyone to cognitively to get on the same page. Epstein was first arrested like 18 years ago.
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u/crittermd 5h ago
Did they- because you sure seem to know about him (many people kept quiet for FAR too long, but the fact we now know means clearly someone talked at some point)
Which is why the more people involved in a conspiracy the more likely it is to collapse under its own weight- if Epstein kept the number of girls he trafficked smaller- and only involved a few people we probably still wouldn’t know- but the more people you involve it only takes one to talk (and possibly get ignored) but then a few more talk- and finally years later we expose at least some degree of truth despite plenty of people still trying to hide it.
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u/violenceistheQstn 5h ago
Yeah thats because the victims came forward
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u/crittermd 5h ago
Correct- I’m just saying using Epstein as a “massive conspiracy can stay hidden” is kind of internally inconsistent- because any conspiracy that we know about- means the conspiracy was broken and we all found out and therefore does not prove that a conspiracy can stay hidden forever. It can show certain things can stay hidden for far longer then we would like to think.
The actual conspiracies that stay hidden the public would have no idea about (and more likely have a smaller number of people “in the know”) and yeah- I’m sure there’s plenty of shady shit going on that we have no clue about- but the more people involved the less likely it is to stay solvent.
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u/andthensilencefell 4h ago
You realize Epstein was doing this for decades before it became public knowledge, right?
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u/Ok-Construction-2671 5h ago
The Epstein stuff was going for God knows how long. And from George Bush to every important member in the parliament has their name in that So when it comes to shutting their mouth, they did pretty good.
Your country is run by Paedophiles So at this point, I won’t even be surprised if 911 was inside job.
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u/Floppydiskpornking 5h ago
They even have feds scrubbing Trumps name from the files, why else would the word "don't" be blacked out consistently. Imagine working as an officer of the law, protecting a pedo con man...
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u/lilbitlostrn 3h ago
It's not like they'd involve average Joe govt worker to slam a plane into the towers. There are suggestions that America's strongest ally was involved, and it's easier for a foreign govt to keep it's mouth shut.
Think about all the black ops you won't be hearing about. They're happening, but most people won't have visibility. Only very high level.
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u/Antique-Resort6160 3h ago
lol, can you name a single one of Epstein's clients jailed for kid diddling?
BTW there's tons of info released about 9/11, enough to know that many people obviously knew what was happening.
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u/Consistent-booper 3h ago
We know so much cause people didn't keep their mouth shut. You have to be special to think this was not an inside job at this point .
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u/andthensilencefell 4h ago
Well, when the options are keep your mouth shut or get disappeared I imagine it becomes easier to understand.
For the record I don’t think 9/11 was staged. But I do think our government had prior knowledge of the attack and chose to let it happen so they’d have an excuse to pillage- sorry, take revenge on - the Middle East.
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u/ElaineTerrell 6h ago
Money can keep anyone's mouth shut to be very honest
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u/EmperorUmi 5h ago
And convincing enough of them that this is a patriotic duty to keep the country safe.
I mean, we can see how many people kept their mouths shut and went along with concentration camps in Nazi Germany. We can see how many people allowed internment camps to hold Japanese-American (as well as other Asian) citizens after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
I mean, look at all the genocide deniers who truly believe Israel is not doing anything wrong.
It’s not illogical to believe 9/11 could’ve been an inside job. You just need people to believe it is the right decision.
All for the good of the American people.
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u/Pretty-Cockroach6394 4h ago
many people came forward but no one believes them lol
D. Chany literally organized warplane highjacking drill scenarios on the same day the 9/11 happened, thats the reason planes didn't get intercepted its because the air traffic control couldn't pin point or figure out if the threat is a play scenario or currently happening lol
FAA recordings from morning of Sept. 11 reveal moments air traffic controllers realized hijacking...
here is real time transcripts you can literally hear traffic controlers scrambling to try to figure out if its a hoax or not...
how the fuck you think a highjacked passenger plane had free 2 hours to roam over the most guarded sky in northern hemisphere without NORAD and air control being on their assess the moment they entered it?
bunch of unknown individuals made serious BANK on insider trading and conviniently also wiped both Exxon scandal and Pentagon deficit investigations going on lol
i think even William Cooper predicted to the T they will blame Osama on it after some airplane incident, its not like it came outta nowhere people were definitely aware of what is going on back then but people think these conspiracies need "everyone to know" and play their part when in fact George Bush was just a useful idiot in the whole story as well as Chaney kept him in the dark about the whole plan.
Plus getting a big pay day and keeping your family out of harms way is a pretty good incentive to shut the fuck up :))) cuz even if you tell people the truth who gonna believe you?
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u/bigorangemachine 3h ago
I'm kinda shopping carting my own theories.
The day 9-11 happened I was really suspicious of the pentagon strike. There was a gas station camera that released like 3 frames of video of the "Plane" and it 100% looked like a cruise missile. How there aren't any eye witnesses on the road being like "Holy shit there is a plane flying low". I had a cellphone back then so I don't know how one person didn't call the police about a fucking plane low flying over the highway.
How the towers feel makes sense to me
Tower 7 was badly damaged so I get why it got demolished.
Personally I don't think the whitehouse is involved but they 100% covered it up
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u/Possible_Field328 3h ago
Yeah, they usually try not to leak classified information but it happens sometimes. How many conspiracy theories about the u.s government doing heinous shit only to be proven to be true?
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u/Unlikely-Emphasis-26 5h ago
Is that your reasoning? Oeff..
Quick little example: The asbestos aftermath: got silenced reeeeal fast. Is now finally confirmed.
According to you, not true? Because too many people had to keep their mouth shut? And the ones who spoke out, did it make a difference you think?
I hope you learn real fast that your reasoning is rediculous.
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u/HeyGayHay 5h ago
I mean, if exposing it makes you become Edward Snowden at best, or get you and your family killed at worst, coming out and claiming it was staged with no real evidence to be brandmarked a lunatic like all those who did speak up seems unreasonable
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u/FreeToasterBaths 4h ago
Government people stayed quiet about the iran contra affair for a decent amount of time...
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u/Rich-Mark-4126 5h ago
This video doesn't really talk about any motive for wanting to do this
Weren't insurance policies taken out on the buildings shortly before the attacks, and they were filled with asbestos so a controlled demolition was not possible and otherwise fixing the problem (basically deconstructing the entire building floor by floor) would be astronomically expensive?
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u/hoofie242 3h ago
Iraq war, Ghadaffi, Mubarak, restricting free travel, market consolidation and controlling citizen location.
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u/Porschenut914 3h ago
They leased the building july 24 2001. and signed insurance documents the next day. of coarse the plans were only 6 weeks old.
there was no urgent plan to remove the asbestos. it was a slow process over the previous 15 years.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 29m ago
" a project for a new american history " and " patriot act ". google it. the documentation is insane.
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u/Lopsided_Anxiety_394 6h ago
Why did building 7 fall? And why were the 5 dancing Israelis arrested for celebrating then mysteriously released without a fuss
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u/lolly-scramble 5h ago
Didnt they find all the terrorists passports as well lol
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u/letsdoit131 5h ago
Doesnt make sense if you think on it. Lots ppl on board, why claim this passport must belong to the terrorist? If FBI say well its because the passport detailsis matches a concerning person known to FBI, how was the passport processed without setting off alarms in the first place
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u/lavabearded 5h ago
yeah you're right. I thought about it even though I know nothing about it and you're right, it makes no sense. something's up
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u/Frewdy1 4h ago
7 fell because of damage from falling debris and fires. The dancing Israelis was a myth.
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u/Comprehensive_View91 5h ago
you know there is a whole big ass report out there about building 7. You can read it and get your answers, if you disagree feel free to do your own scientific thesis debunking it.
you wont.
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u/Lopsided_Anxiety_394 5h ago
You can shove your reports up ypu hotty holes.
I will never ever respect American reports or justice after the Epstein files. That country can not be taken seriously.
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u/Comprehensive_View91 4h ago
yeah because you have no idea what you are talking about, so you would not even have the possibility to write a scientific thesis.
i guess its easier to watch youtube videos
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u/Porschenut914 3h ago
the side facing the towers was fucked up and it burned for 7 hours.
https://www.reddit.com/r/911archive/s/p5vi5jEB0K
https://www.reddit.com/r/StructuralEngineering/s/L5UKaIEDHS
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u/WWhiMM 3h ago
This would be a super important question if the US government hadn't followed up the deaths of those 3,000 people with the deaths of 3,000,000 more people. They did the War on Terror all out in the open, an endless public celebration of cruelty. By the numbers it was 1,000 9/11's carried out over decades of military occupation.
Is my world turned upside down if they did 1,001 9/11's instead of just 1,000? No. Your attitude towards the government should be the same regardless of whether the Truthers are right. And, if instead you think one American life is worth 1,000 overseas, you're a bad person.
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u/Wakattack00 5h ago
The furthest you could get me to go is we had figured out something was taking place but intentionally didn’t stop it. I don’t even wanna go that far, but it feels in the realm of possibility.
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u/EducationalBar 3h ago
Tell me you know nothing of Operation Northwoods without telling me you know nothing of Operation Northwoods 🤦♂️
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u/Photmagex 4h ago
I remember listening intently on the TV and radio that morning. It was reported that F-15’s were scrambled and shot down flight 93. Later in the day the story changed to the more palatable one we now know.
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u/lavabearded 5h ago
being a 9/11 truther is a litmus test for general stupidity and specifically knowing practically nothing about history from the 70s till 2001. as the years go by, there are constantly people who were figuratively born yesterday growing up, who are young and almost entirely stupid and ignorant of everything, who have no context for any world event much less 9/11, yet they heard some other idiot asking questions that they couldn't answer (obviously, since they are ignorant) so they are convinced that the questions themselves are insightful.
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u/DigitusInRecto 4h ago
So... what's your point? Sincerely, as a non-American, I struggle to realize what's the message of your comment.
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u/EducationalBar 3h ago
The irony is lost on OP that it can read exactly the same for both sides 🤦♂️
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u/GravityMaxi 4h ago
So many red flags. If it was a false flag, then the release of all that asbestos into New York on top of the demolition is the cruelest icing on the evil cake.
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u/Marcel_The_Blank 6h ago
Lol, this theory just casually assumes all commercial airline pilots get military training.
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u/Frewdy1 4h ago
Right off the bat the video (made by who?!) says that they couldn’t believe the hijacked planes flew in highly-protected airspace, as if there’s just constantly fighter jets patrolling the skies and missiles constantly pointing at commercial airlines? Like the whole point of hijacking commercial airlines was so that they wouldn’t get shot down immediately and the video’s creator couldn’t fathom that idea.
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u/HAc0reRD 4h ago
You see flashes in a controlled demo not just puffs of smoke. The building is full of smoke and that gets pushed around by the air pressure of the building falling.
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u/captainmeezy 6h ago
Did this douche nozzle just censor the word “staged” ?
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u/Temporary-Hat-1948 5h ago
Quick-connect 235psi douche nozzle c/w storz port up the nose with a hose. I hate that toptick censorship too.
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u/Acework23 5h ago
staged? no, real people died, funny enough some special chosen people were called to take a day off, all of them, anyway 9/11 is the most obvious inside job ever
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u/Fit_Foot_6004 5h ago
Yeah I mean the owner of the buildings who never took time off and was never late chose to pick up his kid that day or drop his kid off whatever it was
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u/Acework23 4h ago
and made a weird ensurance on the building two months before with terorism clause which was unheard of before
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u/lavabearded 4h ago
its truly a smoking gun for the owner of the building to make a weird ensurance on his building that was already bombed by terrorists before. they think they are so smart but me and you... we can read between the lines. we see the ensurance trail
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u/Ok-Construction-2671 5h ago
The Real Document: Operation Northwoods (1962) In March 1962, the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a top-secret memorandum titled "Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba" . The document proposed orchestrating a series of false-flag operations to manufacture public outrage and provide a pretext for military intervention against Fidel Castro's regime.
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u/mongol_king2 5h ago
Israel did it
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u/Anonymous__Android 4h ago
Yeah but you say this about literally everything that ever happens
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u/Isotoners 2h ago
Autumn 1992: Influential Academic Advocates Breaking Up Middle Eastern Countries, Including Iraq
Princeton University professor Bernard Lewis publishes an article in the influential journal Foreign Affairs called “Rethinking the Middle East.” In it, he advocates a policy he calls “Lebanonization.” He says, “[A] possibility, which could even be precipitated by [Islamic] fundamentalism, is what has late been fashionable to call ‘Lebanonization.’ Most of the states of the Middle East—Egypt is an obvious exception—are of recent and artificial construction and are vulnerable to such a process. If the central power is sufficiently weakened, there is no real civil society to hold the polity together, no real sense of common identity.… Then state then disintegrates—as happened in Lebanon—into a chaos of squabbling, feuding, fighting sects, tribes, regions, and parties.” Lewis is well known as a longtime supporter of the Israeli right wing. Since the 1950s, he has argued that the West and Islam have been engaged in a titanic “clash of civilizations” and that the US should take a hard line against all Arab countries. Lewis is considered a highly influential figure to the neoconservative movement, and some neoconservatives such as Richard Perle and Harold Rhode consider him a mentor. In 1996, Perle and others influenced by Lewis will write a paper for right wing Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu entitled “A Clean Break” that advocates the “Lebanonization” of countries like Iraq and Syria. Lewis will remain influential after 9/11. For instance, he will have dinner with Vice President Cheney shortly before the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. Some will later suspect that Cheney and others were actually implementing Lewis’s idea by invading Iraq. Chas Freeman, former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, will say in May 2003, just after the invasion, “The neoconservatives’ intention in Iraq was never to truly build democracy there. Their intention was to flatten it, to remove Iraq as a regional threat to Israel.”
Paragraph from the article Rethinking Middle East: "in the meantime the United States, so it would appear, remains alone. Today the only serious restraint on the American administration is American public opinion. Of the many blunders made by Saddam Hussein, the greatest of all was to infuriate the American administration and antagonize public opinion at the same time. Without this double shock it is unlikely that American democracy would have allowed the dispatch of an army to a Middle Eastern battlefield. And after the shock it became clear that American public opinion would not tolerate keeping American troops in the Middle East a day longer than was strictly necessary, and perhaps not even as long as that."
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u/MikeTheMaster102 5h ago
9/11 being staged is one of the main things extremists on both sides believe in, personally i don't.
How can you stage at least 7 people calling home and saying the hijackers were Arab? pay off their families? what do the families stand to gain when their family member died from the governments actions.
Most of the hijackers are identified anyways.
Believing the twin towers were blown up just doesn't even make any sense cause then you're discrediting tens of thousands of witnesses.
The fact that no footage was released of the pentagon is the strongest piece of evidence there is that it was a inside job, but in what case is it unlikely that the most secure place of the country doesn't release footage that could potentially be a huge security risk? One person working in the pentagon claims it was a missile (as someone posted in this comment section) But what would the government gain from bombing it's own building, then not proving it had any damage done to it. It would be far more reasonable to not have any damage done to the building and pretend it had been attacked.
Not to mention Afghanistan taking credit for the attacks.
and what about the flight that crashed into a field? Let's say it was staged, then where could it have possible been going? All evidence says it was going to DC so most likely the white house, which once again, if it was a inside job, they wouldn't destroy, only terrorists would.
Another popular idea is that the twin towers were demolished, the only evidence being that it looked like a demolition, but that kind of disproves itself because if the government is wasting billions, it would spend a bit more to make it so that the planes did just destroy the tower anyways no need for explosives at the base.
The last point coming to mind off the top of my head is that why would the government cause so much destruction just to go to war, as we can see with the war with Iran, the government doesn't need much of a excuse, they could've just said Afghanistan was suspected to have WMD or just use all the previous actions Afghanistan did as a excuse, it'd be controversial sure, but not as controversial as killing thousands of it's own citizens.
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u/LagVictim 4h ago
How can you stage at least 7 people calling home and saying the hijackers were Arab?
i'm not a 9/11 truther or whatever they're called, but i feel like this doesn't really matter on weather it was staged or not, one could say that the government was working with the terrorists/manipulating them into doing it, rather than doing 100% of it themsevles, you could also say that the people they got to do it were arabs cus, you know, there's alot of those guys
i just feel like the ethnicity of the hijackers and people reporting the ethnicity doesn't really matter in determining weather it was staged or not, if anything, if it was staged and the government wanted to blame it on the middle east, they would MAKE SURE that the people doing the actual dirty work are arabs
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u/jiggeryqua 4h ago
You asked your first question and then promptly answer it. One possible answer at any rate.
Do you sincerely believe that the most powerful government (ie network of conspiracists) on the planet, that has historically been happy to sacrifice its own citizens in the tens of thousands for political ends, wuld not be comfortable with sacrificing more of its citizens for political (and/or financial) ends?
'Hijackers' have been *named*. Not identified - there's no bodies. No trial. Not a great deal of evidence.
Which tens of thousands of witnesses - those who watched the towers fall? Many people who've seen that believe they saw demolition (esp. building 7).
What would the government gain? Your paucity of imagination is not an argument. The video says the plane hit the office investigating trillions of missing dollars. Is that not motive enough for you?
If I took credit for the attacks you'd not believe me. But I could do it, and so could any leader who wanted to impress their people. Was it Afghanistan? I thought it was Bin Laden?
Then you ask another question and answer it yourself immediately, again. They didn't destroy the White House though, did they? A conspiracy wouldn't risk that, they wouldn't need to do it. They could do just enough to suggest that was the target.
A plane wouldn't normally bring down an entire building - hadn't happened before, hasn't happened since. 'decididing' a plane could or should? That's not how physics works.
An excuse is one thing - the full-throated support of every patriotic, or newly patriotic, American is another.
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u/Significant_Baker575 5h ago
I don't have tike for folks who speak as quickly as in this video. They usually hope you're just sucking it all I'm.
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u/SignificanceFlat1460 3h ago
"Ignore is Strength.... Oh that's perfect... They should put that on our money"
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u/GoodGuyScott 2h ago
Yes, DJT will announce in a tweet that it was him amd MAGA will cheer or something.
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u/RocasThePenguin 6h ago
I like these theories. They are fun. And for sure, there may be some truth to some aspects of it, but no way. As a commenter already mentioned, imagine the massive cover-up and how many people would need to stay silent. The same for the moon landings. Impossible. Not to mention, science has debunked most of these claims.
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u/StilettoJones_JR 5h ago
Calling investigation into one of the largest tragedies in American history "fun"... is a take. Indeed.
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u/lavabearded 5h ago
conspiracy theories are fun, that is why half wits love them so much, like children love toys
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u/jiggeryqua 4h ago
Proper intelligent grown-ups know that adults can never agree on anything, that nobody ever does bad things because they were ordered to and knew their career depended on it, that clever people never lie *and* that the world is made of sunshine and lollipops.
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u/StilettoJones_JR 5h ago
Living in 2026 with an Orange Reality TV star tweeting about annilhating entire civilizations while we watch the stock market literally be manipulated weekend after weekend completely dismantles the idea that people who think outside of the media are "children with toys"
That childish mindset is what is protecting actual child-victimizing criminals as well.
We all gotta wake up... but they done destroyed that whole term/philosophy in perpuated and exaggerated cultural wars as well...
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u/Floppydiskpornking 5h ago
They are litterally actively covering up theEpstein-Trump files...
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u/lavabearded 5h ago
they're covering it up so well that they arrested epstein and now you're talking about the files that they've kept a complete secret
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u/MikeTheMaster102 5h ago
Hate to break it to you but that is just infinitely more niche than 9/11, not in terms of popularity but in terms of who'd have to work on it
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u/jiggeryqua 4h ago
Imagine the massive cover up of Enigma, the Bletchley Park codebreakers who stayed silent for decades because they signed up to do that and believed the cause was necessary. Imagine adding blackmail, bribery and credible threats to the lives of everyone you love. You'd keep the secret too.
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u/mongol_king2 5h ago
Don't forget the dancing Israelis or the fact that netenyahu came on record and said 911 was good for Israel
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u/Empuda 3h ago
Jet fuel melts steel beams. It's science.
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u/Danthalas_01 3h ago
No it doesn't , it doesnt get hot enough. The most it did was lessen its strength by 50% and thats still not enough for the towers to collapse in a controlled demolition way. It collapsed like a accordion. Go search videos of controlled demolition of buildings.
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u/Independent-Cow-3795 3h ago
Yes it does! That’s why planes need to use special plastic engines that don’t melt during the ignition process in order to work!!!!🥴
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