r/Weird • u/Direct_Dark4143 • 12h ago
woke up thinking about a saint i had never heard of
this morning i woke up thinking about someone called saint la cruz, later in the day i looked them up and they turned out to be a real person. I am not religious and have never learned about this dude, super weird.
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u/Infamous_Copy5113 12h ago
You should take it as a cue to read some of his writings. He was a Catholic mystic who wrote books about how to achieve real communion with God. Ascent of Mount Carmel and Dark Night of The Soul are his most famous works. You could read about these books on Wikipedia and see what you think.
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u/Direct_Dark4143 12h ago
interesting maybe i should
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u/jasonhackwith 11h ago
I highly recommend Dark Night of the Soul. It has had a profound influence on my life.
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u/Clean-Patient-8809 11h ago
Loreena McKennitt has an absolutely gorgeous version of Dark Night of the Soul set to music. One of my all-time favorites.
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u/vindicativevandal 8h ago
Seconding this, OP. Hit me up if something calls out to you and want to check it out in the original language.
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u/themicrodose 11h ago
Maybe? You sure do sound eager. Even if they come in your dreams youāll rather just snooze on your message
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u/Direct_Dark4143 11h ago
where could i find his writings?
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u/themicrodose 11h ago
Seriously I just googled. Maybe the message you received wasnāt for you and for us who see its importance. Donāt take these opportunities for granted
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u/Direct_Dark4143 11h ago
iāll read his writings the second iām able to
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u/3rdUncleMeatSandwich 8h ago
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u/3rdUncleMeatSandwich 8h ago edited 8h ago
You can usually type the author and the title plus pdf or epub and look for filesā¦ on Google look for the lil gray badge that shows the file typeā¦.(thatās how I found it)
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u/3rdUncleMeatSandwich 8h ago
If you already googled you coulda copied the link n shared it, Mr smarty pants. I did the same thing as you but I was helpful so <@#;*) (thatās a š¤” in a party hat)
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u/Cole_Townsend 11h ago
He led a very interesting life. He was jailed at one point for trying to reform his religious order (Carmelites). Instead of being angry or crestfallen, he became the preeminent doctor of the Church (universally acknowledged master) in mystical theology. He was associated closely with Teresa de Ćvila, another Doctor of the Church and renowned expert of prayer who was also persecuted for her reforms.
Maybe it's a sign to be unafraid of going against the grain and finding your own path. Both Juan and Teresa ended up being global successes despite the hardships they initially encountered.
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u/themicrodose 11h ago
Sounds like OP aināt interested. Heād rather just post on Reddit
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u/Nerevarine91 11h ago edited 10h ago
They said āmaybeā once in a colloquialism and youāve been riding them about it and being relentlessly negative since. You even responded to them asking for resources with contempt towards them and praise for yourself.
Is this how you represent your faith? Is this putting your best foot forward?
Edit: they responded by privately messaging me to say that they were doing this to subtly encourage the other commenter to āprove them wrong,ā and that they do this in their youth group. To be completely honest, this approach feels manipulative to me, which is why Iām mentioning it here.
Iāll put my cards on the table here: I was raised Quaker. We do not proselytize, but, for those who show an interest, it just feels completely wrong to belittle or manipulate them into the faith. Your relationship with the divine as you perceive is a product of the deepest part of your soul, knowable only to you, and can only be approached with honesty. I am explaining what I was told, and my own views, not to shame anyone or as some sort of āgotcha,ā but because my conscience tells me I simply cannot support this approach, even passively.
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u/Cole_Townsend 11h ago
Nonetheless, it got me thinking of this Saint again. I haven't really read his works but I did study theology in some iteration of my former life.
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u/AgitatedEveryday 11h ago
I only know of him because of this painting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Saint_John_of_the_Cross
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u/Nofucksgivenin2021 11h ago
Is anyone else seeing Saint OCD?
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u/Splungeblob 11h ago
OCD is the abbreviation of the Latin āOrdo Carmelitarum Discalceatorumā (Order of Discalced Carmelites). The religious order of friars he was a member of.
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u/Nofucksgivenin2021 11h ago
So heās not the Saint of Obsessive Compulsive Disorderā¦. Damn, we need a one of those.
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u/Splungeblob 11h ago
Not specifically OCD, but Saint Dymphna is the patron saint of mental illness, nervous disorders, anxiety, and emotional distress.
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u/Nofucksgivenin2021 11h ago
Holy Fuck I was kidding thereās one of those???
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u/Splungeblob 11h ago edited 11h ago
Dude thereās a patron saint for essentially everything, lol.
I looked up the patron saint of stomach problems a while ago when I had a horrible stomach bug. (Itās Saint Timothy - the patron saint of stomach ailments and intestinal disorders.)
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u/Nofucksgivenin2021 11h ago
Which one is in charge of the pedos? I would like to have a word with him
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u/Splungeblob 11h ago
Thereās some overlap with various things saints are patrons of, so there may be some others that would be appropriate, but arguably that could also just fall under Saint Dymphna (as a mental illness).
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u/iLRMLH24 12h ago
Could it be because of Santa Cruz the skateboarding brand?
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u/Direct_Dark4143 12h ago
donāt really skate so probably not
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u/Tallowpot 11h ago
I liive in Santa Cruz but had a weird dream about a scorpion losing its tail.
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u/dirkalict 11h ago
Last time I dreamt about losing an appendage my cock fell off.
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u/Tallowpot 11h ago
The best part is waking up and still having said cock. I donāt know any scorpions, sadly.
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u/fapacunter 9h ago
I had that with a song before.
Dreamt of a song. Woke up, recorded myself singing it before I forgot and it took years before I found out what it was
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u/FoxHolyDelta 11h ago
I've had this happen before two or three times with both people and locations; I'm convinced there's really something to... remembering fragments of things completely by accident. I don't think we have complete memories (in fact, I'd argue against it), but I think we have more bouncing around our minds than we might think.
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u/Hagura71 5h ago
I had the same thing happen a few days ago. Woke up thinking about an Celtic folk monster that I had never heard of. I donāt know how I knew about āLeanan Sidheā at that moment. I must have overheard it subconsciously or knew about it earlier and forgot or something.
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u/Splungeblob 11h ago
Honestly really cool OP. I second others saying to take it as a sign you should look into his writings and what he was about.
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u/Direct_Dark4143 11h ago
yeah iāll for sure look into them, do you know where to find them?
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u/Splungeblob 11h ago
Dark Night of the Soul - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Night_of_the_Soul (has the poem and other relevant info about it).
The poem is from the beginning of his book āAscent of Mount Carmelā. Looks like there might be some free ebooks and other resources for the full book online.
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u/IaMtHel00phole 10h ago
I had a dream about someone who seemed holy and what not. We were talking outside. I can't remember the conversation. But I remember his name. I googled him and he was a saint in the Phillipines. I normally don't remember my dreams. This one really stuck out to me.
Saint Pedro Calungsod
Life: Born around 1654 in Visayas, Philippines, he was a young migrant catechist (a teacher of the Catholic faith) who joined Jesuit missionaries.
Martyrdom: He was killed in 1672 in Guam while defending Father Diego Luis de San Vitores during missionary work.
Canonization: Canonized by Pope Benedict XVI in October 2012, making him the second Filipino saint.
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u/WhiskeyAndKisses 8h ago
I once woke up thinking about Trujilio. (I have 0 ties with America, never heard of it, and have no idea what I would do there)
Another time it was some specific german verb about deers.
So yeah it happens, but what are we even supposed to do with that lol
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u/Obelisk_M 3h ago
You should look up what Cryptomnesia is.
Cruz simply means cross in Spanish. The Catholic Church recognizes over 10,000 saints. The statistical probability of pairing the title "Saint" with one of the most culturally ubiquitous religious words in human history & finding a corresponding historical figure is functionally 100%. You could wake up thinking about "Saint Dog" & find Saint Roch, the patron saint of dogs.
It happened to me with Camazotz.
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u/atomicwoodchuck 3h ago
The GOP convention just concluded in Texas, and local Congresswoman Monica De La Cruz gave a speech there. Did you perhaps see a reference to her, and the last name just sort of stuck into your subconscious?
Iām not religious, but interesting things have popped into my head. If I really think about it, most of the time I can figure out what I heard that made me think that thing.
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u/hungrylittleworm 10h ago
Yeah dark night of the soul OP, your being told to address your shadow. Safe travels
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u/Direct_Dark4143 10h ago
could you elaborate on what that means?
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u/hungrylittleworm 10h ago
We all have ānegativeā natures, they manifest differently for different people.
Iām doing a similar journey myself, realising why Iāve always been a little fucked up after so many years.
Might be a call to address past trauma, grown, heal.
Should meditate on St.John.
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u/Omniphilo23 4h ago
This guy came up yesterday during reading. This morning he is all I can think about. Now I see this post, I guess it's time to learn about him.
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u/enthusiasm_gap 1h ago
Not to throw cold water on you man, but there is like... zero percent chance you haven't in some way absorbed information passively from culture about this dude. You heard his name a million times and it stuck in your head, its not that deep. That being said, check out his poems they're pretty cool.
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u/jackspasm 10h ago
Do you meditate? This seems like your higher self communicating with you. Meditation could open up more synchronicity like this.
Your art is really awesome BTW.
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u/Direct_Dark4143 10h ago
no iām not really spiritual at all actually, thank you! i taught myself to draw
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u/InactiveMedusa 12h ago
If a giant ball of wings and eyes appears to you in the night, don't be afraid.