r/clevercomebacks 43m ago

She ate him up

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u/ComedicHermit 35m ago

Not really; the people who should be studying endometriosis are not the same people that threw together this kind of study because they needed a publishable journal article to fufill the contract

u/ColumnK 29m ago

Also, this would be a sociological study rather than a medical one. It'd be like asking a geologist why they're not curing cancer.

u/ComedicHermit 26m ago

"Because my rock polisher was broken, Dave."

u/Martin_Aurelius 10m ago

The mechanic was suppossd to fix it, but he's working on tort reform.

u/EmuRommel 4m ago

He had to jump in because the lawyer was on tour.

u/ZincHead 23m ago

Finding therapies for endometriosis would also be much harder, cost orders of magnitude more and take much longer. 

u/naughtyobama 21m ago

Yea ok. Ill ask it then: why the fuck is he not curing cancer already?!

u/weeBunnie 13m ago

More to do with funding doesn’t it? If it’s done by a contract for a journal, asking for more studies on endometriosis shows people will read it, so it’s promotes them to fund it

u/PauI_MuadDib 24m ago

Unfortunately, that's not the case. I know of two endo studies that revovled around men's sexuality. One was on how endometriosis affects straight men's sex lives. And one was infamously on how women with severe, crippling rectovaginal endometriosis are more attractive:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22985951/

u/anniversaring 18m ago

Still, both of those seem more like sociological studies and not medical ones which is the OP comment point. We need actual doctors and medical researchers doing endo research and study, not sociological quacks

u/PauI_MuadDib 13m ago

The Endometriosis Hot or Not study was actually a branch off of another study. The doctor running it noticed the women showing up got his dick hard so he wrote a whole separate study on how hot these research subjects were.

What's crazy is that it was very subjective because it was him determining attractiveness. So one dude. He also didn't account for things like cosmetic procedures, shape wear, padded bras, etc. He used body measurements (bust, waist, hips) and BMI for deeming attractiveness. But you can go by something like bust size if you don't know if the person had breast augmentation. 

u/sonofaresiii 5m ago

That doesn't sound like a real study at all. That just sounds like one jackass being a jackass.

u/ComedicHermit 18m ago

Again, this was mostl ikely psychology or sociology; this was not medical researchers suddenly remembering they hadn't published an article this year

u/PauI_MuadDib 1m ago

I've participated personally in probably 15 endometriosis studies. Most were bullplop.  

I quit one with the NIH because it seemed like just a cashgrab. They wanted menstrual blood from surgically diagnosed women. So I was supposed to send them a disposable menstrual cup sample. But then I got to the new consent form they slipped in after interviews. 

They said they wanted permission to sell my blood and DNA to third parties, store blood & DNA in some undisclosed database and that they are not obligated to use my blood for this study and can do whatever they wanted with it instead.  

The fuck...  

However, I do have to say MIT does some good endo studies. Biomedical engineer  Linda Griffith has done some interesting one's. She's got one with studying how the uterus repairs itself every cycle without scarring and how that can be applied to organ regeneration for things like skin grafts in burn victims. 

Griffith has said tho because women's healthcare is so poorly studied she has to basically start from scratch. Because there is no research or it's outdated.  

Griffith is famous most known for growing an ear on a mouse, but she does endometriosis studies too. 

u/Correct_Inspection25 19m ago

These have to be up for ignobles right?

u/DeinEheberater 16m ago

There have been over 2000 endometriosis studies published last year. I think the world will be okay if two of them are bullshit.

u/BearishBabe42 20m ago

The point is, this study got funded while studies for endometriosis didn't. Scientists and researchers compete for funding. Maybe 1 in 10 get funding for a project, and less than 1 in 20 projects even get approved to apply for funding in the first place. So why did this get approved? And by whom?

u/Kahzgul 16m ago

Who funded it is important. A makeup company? A company that sells makeup remover? A government? A college? A billionaire?

u/alcomaholic-aphone 14m ago

This kind of study is pennies compared to an actual medical study though. This is basically the equivalent of a Family Feud episode where they surveyed 100 people and came up with a few statistically insignificant answers.

u/standarsh1965 24m ago

Yea probably because one is basically a poll and the other requires actual brains

u/ComedicHermit 16m ago

Attraction studies often involves attachments to genitals to measure physiological reactions.

u/ResponsibilityNo3245 24m ago

Very different skill sets involved in these two topics. It's a ridiculous false equivalency.

I have no idea who the "him" is either, this appears to be 2 women.

u/That-Spell-2543 11m ago

It’s Sydney Sweeney and Sabrina carpenter…

u/ResponsibilityNo3245 4m ago

I'm refering to the account holders.

u/Kahzgul 19m ago

She ate “who” up? Hania? Who also appears to be a woman?

u/the_albino_raccoon 16m ago

How is this clever? A sociologist doesnt know how to study a medical condition?

u/iAmManchee 6m ago

Because there seems to be endless money for stuff like this (pointless study with pointless findings) but health related things that affect AFAB people are ignored

u/the_albino_raccoon 4m ago

Your right its pointless but telling that a sociologist should do a study on endometriosis is just gonna end up with "is it terrible? Yeah its terrible."

u/shawn_the_medic 33m ago

Where's the "him"? 

Both posts are from women. 

Nobody hates women more than other women. 

u/Count_Rugens_Finger 16m ago

the response was to the scientists that study male attraction rather than endometriosis

of course, that is a zero sum fallacy. we can study both things, and we do

u/hisolohowareu 31m ago

Who said men did the studying

u/obey_Thekermit 24m ago

Just delete the sub already

u/ChaseTheOldDude 13m ago

Or rename it to comebacks that sound clever to 14 year olds

u/yummy-ps 42m ago

Men will happily study full bare-face "no makeup" makeup looks for hours before they ever bother looking into basic women's health conditions.

u/cherrygirlies 36m ago

Seriously, funding all these pointless social studies when actual health conditions affecting millions get sidelined is wild.

u/Interesting-Dream863 33m ago

That is what happens when research is in private hands

u/Positive_Babey 32m ago

Personally, I find a small amount of makeup can look really good, but it gets to a point where the entire face is thickly coated and it looks off putting.

u/Joe_Kangg 15m ago

You should be off pudding

u/PauI_MuadDib 20m ago

To be fair, some people don't realize how much product no-makeup makeup takes. It can take a fuckton of product to look like you naturally woke up like that and aren't wearing a stitch of makeup. It comes down to technique. You gotta have good technique to cake it on without it looking caked on. 

u/lickthepixies 19m ago

You realize it’s possible to leave the house with no product on your face, right? I’ve been doing it for 38 years.

u/SquisherX 13m ago

Yes, but the study is specifically about "less" makeup, not no makeup. I figure if guys preferred no makeup, that would be the headline.

u/please_trade_marner 24m ago

You want these psychologists to start studying endometriosis? That's a very bizarre take.

u/Orful 23m ago

Ok, we’re not sidelining women’s health conditions to study full bare-face “no makeup.”

We’re sidelining women’s health conditions to study a cure for balding.

u/smorgasfjord 20m ago

Why do you expect sociologists to solve your health problems? And why do you expect men to do it, when female doctors of medicine exist

u/AnekeEomi 40m ago

Sounds like some a woman would say...

u/Upbeat_Literature323 30m ago edited 27m ago

Not everyone is willing to be a doctor, or a researcher, why dont you people do this for yourselves

u/DeinEheberater 14m ago

Over 2000 endometriosis papers were published last year, I don’t think this is a field that is being paid little attention (it certainly was the case, but is not anymore)

u/Yarius515 17m ago

I had to look up what endometriosis is.
Holy shit why do we know so little about it? Seems like something we should have fucking mastered a cure for by now.

u/SnarcD 30m ago

I don't think psychology researchers are qualified to study that particular subject.

u/nativeindian12 25m ago

“As shown in Figure 1, we identified 21,336 articles about endometriosis published in the 20 years from 2002 through 2021. Beginning in 2013, the number of articles published yearly exceeded 1000”

So averaging about three articles published every day for 20 years

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10681485/

Very to find this information but I guess it’s easier to be a professional victim

u/Yarius515 15m ago

And yet it's still not enough to know its cause.

u/yourfrienddani 15m ago

"a common disease of reproductive aged women" yet has only had significant research done in the last 20 years. You're proving the point, but not your own...

u/TugleyWoodGalumpher 6m ago

Proving the point that a noticeably massive change as occurred for the better?

You realize that these are two entirely different fields of study, right?

u/yourfrienddani 2m ago

You realize this is a sub about clever comebacks and not actually determining where research funds go? It's a good comeback and women's health is legitimately under-researched. Also yes, proving the point that we need more studies on endometriosis

u/BilliamClimptonIII 16m ago edited 9m ago

Him, who? Renato Polimanti?

Largest-Ever Genetic Study of Endometriosis Uncovers 80 Risk Regions and New Avenues for Treatment

medicine.yale.edu

Yale investigators, in collaboration with a team of international scientists, have nearly doubled the known genetic landscape of endometriosis, a chronic inflammatory disease affecting approximately 10% of women worldwide. By analyzing the genomes of more than 1.4 million women, including over 105,000 cases, the study identifies 80 genomic regions linked to endometriosis risk, 37 of which are new discoveries. This large multi-ancestry study provides the most complete map so far of the biological mechanisms behind the disease. The research team’s findings were published in Nature Genetics. “This research was a collaborative effort involving investigators with diverse expertise to translate the discovery power of several major biobanks into actionable findings that can improve the care of women affected by endometriosis,” says Renato Polimanti, PhD, MSc, senior author and associate professor of psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine.

Breaking the "diagnostic delay" with genetics

Endometriosis, characterized by endometrial-like tissue growing outside the uterus, often presents with complex symptoms and a diagnostic delay that can last up to a decade. The Yale study explored the genetic links between the disease and its diverse symptoms, such as chronic pelvic pain, migraine, and nausea. "This study advances our understanding of genetic risk factors for endometriosis and provides molecular support for several leading hypotheses on its pathogenesis," says Dora Koller, PhD, lead author, research affiliate at Yale School of Medicine, and principal investigator at the Women and Perinatal Health Research Group at the Sant Pau Research Institute in Barcelona, Spain.

Key findings include:

Targeted Drug Repurposing: The researchers identified potential new treatments by looking at drugs already approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for other conditions. Highlights include medications used for breast cancer, contraception, and the prevention of preterm birth.

Genetic Overlap with Adenomyosis: The study found five genetic loci shared between endometriosis and adenomyosis (a condition where tissue grows into the uterine wall), helping to clarify whether these are distinct diseases or different versions of the same process.

Global Ancestry Insights: By including participants from multiple population groups, the team demonstrated that while the core biology of the disease is shared globally, specific genetic variations may contribute to how the disease manifests in different regions.

A path toward personalized care

The integration of "multi-omics" data—combining genetics with protein and tissue analysis—allowed the team to link risk factors to pathways involved in inflammation, hormonal regulation, and tissue remodeling. These insights align with major theories of the disease, including "benign metastasis" and immune dysfunction. While a genetic test for endometriosis is not yet available for clinical use, the development of these ancestry-informed risk models marks a significant step toward personalized medicine for millions of women suffering in silence. Yale researchers who contributed to the study include Polimanti, Jun He, Dan Qiu, David Davtian, Ziang Xu, Zhongzheng Mao, Eleni Friligkou, and Brenda Cabrera-Mendoza.

Article outro

Author

The research reported in this news article was supported by the National Institutes of Health (award RF1MH132337) and Yale University. The content is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the National Institutes of Health. Additional support was provided by the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, MQ Foundation, Fundació La Marató de TV3, Spanish Ministerio de Ciencia, Innovación y Universidades, European Union, Endo-Map project, Research Council of Norway, ICREA Academia 2021, AGAUR, and University of Bergen.

u/streeetmeats 7m ago

They did study endometriosis and it was to find the attractiveness of women with it compared to those without it lol

u/paulpach 5m ago

Can someone explain?
As we say in Spanish: What does the ass have to do with the eyelash?
As we say in English: What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

u/Jinjinz 11m ago

Aren’t both posters women? 😭

u/herbieLmao 5m ago

„She ate him up“

Its two women.

u/MakesInfantileJokes 20m ago

She really didn't...

u/MaddogFinland 16m ago

Nice work for the ladies bringing it back around to “look at meeeeee” about everything. Because OBVIOUSLY the same people doing a survey on psychology are the same people who study endometriosis. My god what a bunch of whiny gynocentric garbage

u/TheRateBeerian 8m ago

Those damn social psychologists should have become gynecologists dammit!

u/crowwhisperer 16m ago

i hope one day people can wear or not wear clothing, hair styles and makeup as they please and not for the attention of others.

u/Carbonated-Man 39m ago

People don't wear makeup to impress or look good other people though. It's for themselves. So why should it matter what other people think?

u/triceratopsteve 30m ago

I’ve heard that. I don’t believe that’s totally true.

I think it’s as true as why I work out. Yes it’s for me, I feel better afterward…but there are also other reasons I do it too.

Maybe I’m projecting, but I think wanting to be attractive comes with being gregarious in nature.

u/Investigator300000 36m ago

They do it for themselves, but within that "for themselves" it is clearly implied: "It makes me feel better about myself and sexier when men look at me more." In short, it is the attention that makes them feel validated; it isn't really about yourself if you are doing it to feel better by using the attention of others—at least, that’s how I see it.

u/Interesting-Dream863 32m ago

For their SOCIAL SELVES. If make-up is what's keeping your self worth afloat you are messed up to begin with

u/FlowRiderBob 33m ago

That varies tremendously from person to person.

u/Tough_Preference1741 29m ago

I put on some make up when I’m not even leaving the house. It’s generally Just CC cream and eye brow tint. The CC cream is both my moisturizer and sunscreen. The eye brow tint is because I have blonde eyebrows and I hate seeing them in the mirror. It’s for myself. It’s not to feel sexier for anyone else.

u/Investigator300000 25m ago

When you put it that way, it sounds more like you're doing it to take care of your skin, but I get your point; still, most of the people I've seen are just like I described when it comes to makeup.

u/Tough_Preference1741 15m ago edited 12m ago

Lol, I’m not putting on eyebrow tint to take care of my skin. You’re just assuming most people are just like you described.

u/terra_terror 31m ago

Maybe for some. Others genuinely find it fun to wear make-up. Or they don't care about getting attention from others, but they like looking in a mirror and seeing how they look when they're wearing it.

For example, I'm completely uninterested in anything sexual or romantic and I hate any attention in that way, but I enjoy wearing glittery make-up because sparkles are super fun.

u/Hot_Context_1393 7m ago

Yes, different people might wear makeup for different reasons.

u/Investigator300000 27m ago

You make a valid point; there are people like that, but we can't say the majority are. From what I can see, it's usually people who use it for attention and to feel better about themselves.

But I can't say that all women or men who wear makeup are like that.

u/pokemonke 33m ago

Do you wear makeup?

u/Investigator300000 27m ago

Not a lot, only one or two times a year.

u/Brilliant-Expert3150 22m ago

No? My wearing makeup has nothing to do with getting men's attention. I wear no makeup makeup because at 35 it makes me feel better to have an even skin tone and not look tired and old. It's not for men, I sometimes do it even when I'm home all day because looking put together makes me feel more put together. Especially when I've been on WFH since COVID and it hasn't been great for my mental health.

u/jellooshot 0m ago

That's like the most idiotic thing I keep hearing all the time. There's a reason women wear makeup outdoors and not indoors, the same way we wear better clothing outside and not at home. We want to fit a certain standard, whether it's decency, fashion, beauty, you name it.

And I'm not saying that women wear makeup for men. No, they wear makeup for everyone, women included, actually mostly women if you think about it, because as per this "study", men actually don't find women more attractive in makeup, on the contrary, me included by the way. Still, I don't get the need to deny that.

u/StoneTown 23m ago

No, they do it for other people. The amount of times I've heard "I HaVe To BuY eXpEnSiVe MaKeUp BeCaUsE sOcIeTy" ante even funny. The cheap stuff doesn't wear well, blend well, look good, so there are reasons to buy the good stuff. But it almost always has to do with "others" being the problem.

u/Hot_Context_1393 5m ago

Maybe...different people use makeup for different reasons and we shouldn't generalize

u/Hot_Context_1393 8m ago

That's an unfair generalization. Some people where makeup out of societal obligation, or to look more professional at their job (impress). I known many people who only put on makeup when they will be around other people, suggesting that is not always about them.

u/ZincHead 8m ago

What do you mean why should it matter? Where in the study do you see a value judgement? Not everything being studied is about why you should or shouldn't do something 

u/Due_Yam_3604 7m ago

If you live in a reality where endometriosis has a scientific name and with all the information online about it, you would think that might be a key indicator that it’s being studied.

The fact she has the ability to reference it with a predetermined name and knows what it is enough to whine about it online makes her more ignorant than the false equivalency she’s trying to push.

u/DanFromAngiesList1 19m ago

“Study finds that men don’t care about your endometriosis and only care if your pussy is clean and disease free”. Huh. Found it.

u/lickthepixies 20m ago

Maybe women know that and that’s why they’re wearing makeup… why do men think everything’s about them?

u/pacman813 22m ago

Can someone explain please

u/phoenixgsu 19m ago

The point she is making is that researchers in the study focused on how men rank women's attractiveness instead of something that many women experience and could benefit from.

That said two entirely different fields and endometriosis is studied.

u/pacman813 16m ago

But that's what the study was for, right? Why would a study about how men rate attractiveness contain metrics that aren't related to that? That's the part I dont understand

u/Tough_Preference1741 5m ago

The point she was making is that money is funneled into studies that really benefit no one vs studies that actually help people.

u/Tough_Preference1741 4m ago

She was pointing out that money goes to studying things that benefit no one vs studying things that actually help people.

u/Imnotsureanymore8 1m ago

OP, is the clever comeback in the room with you?

u/OkYak9466 3m ago

Woman: does something

Intelligent Redditors: "a man is responsible for this"

u/NoGoat3930 30m ago

We would, unfortunately billionaires would never fund it unless it affects them.

u/smorgasfjord 19m ago

There's more money on women's health than in men's, and it's being researched all the time

u/synthwavve 40m ago

You can just buy a burka if you are uncomfortable with your looks

u/ObliviousRounding 33m ago

I bet this will make you the talk of your middle school Monday.

u/Japanesewillow 35m ago

That was unnecessary.