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u/Jijonbreaker1 15h ago
Most of the cultists on the right don't actually believe the lies.
The lies are not the point. They aren't meant to convince anybody.
They are meant to be a get out of jail free card of "He lied to me!" when it's time for them to get held accountable. Because everybody knows that "Just following orders" gets you executed.
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u/BillNyeForPrez 14h ago
They don’t actually believe the lies - they just revel in how much it pisses off people who are better at life than them.
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u/Jijonbreaker1 13h ago
This is also part of it, yeah.
They don't lie because they think they will get away with it.
They lie because they know they will get away with it, and you won't. It's there as a flex of "What are you gonna do about it"
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u/Property_that_bites 12h ago
this, exactly. it's why pointing out hypocricy has 0 effect on them. the fact that they can get away with the hypocrisy is the point.
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u/Jijonbreaker1 12h ago
Mhm. There is no shame.
They are the schoolyard bully that just wants to see how much they can get away with.
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u/Exciting-Emu-3324 3h ago
Just like in Russia. Vranyo. They lie not to deceive, but to assert dominance. Whether everyone else believes the lie or wastes time to argue in good faith, they are fools all the same.
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u/Merari01 it's a-me, Merari-o 6h ago
Additionally, the lies are an in-group signifier.
The lies show everyone else their loyalty to the crime ring.
This is a mechanism most often seen in cults and on a smaller scale in abusive relationships.
In that sense, the more outrageous the lie that the leader gets the rubes to repeat, the better. The willingness to openly repeat and pretend to believe insane lies of eyewatering magnitude shows that they are part of the cult and, ironically, that the leadership can trust them.
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u/Independent-Name4478 16h ago
Democrats stole the election when they weren’t in power yet we couldn’t manage to do it both years we were in power
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u/TheStrangestOfKings 8h ago
And now, you’ve got every election result they don’t like being the result of cheating. Pratt losing the LA mayoral election? Cheating. Tammy Baldwin winning in Wisconsin? Cheating. I fully expect them to pull the same with Troy Jackson, El Sayed, and Talarico if any of them win in November
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u/I_like_maps 15h ago
Idk if anyone remembers this but there were SO MANY memes about how mad the left was when Trump won in 2016. Didn't storm the capital though did they?
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u/I_like_maps 15h ago
Do you not remember the riots in DC
On Jan 6th? Yeah that's what I'm talking about. The magas killed a cop. Here's some video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvL4sXhGrYs
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u/I_like_maps 15h ago
The nebulous left-leaning rioters that occured on dates you can't provide.
Not exactly being killed by Jan 6ers
Yeah, it had nothing to do with it. They'd all have died anyway.
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u/I_like_maps 14h ago
Crazy how I was immediately able to provide video evidence and you weren't
so I have no clue why
You do, you just don't want to admit it to yourself.
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u/Good-Consequence-542 14h ago
Riots are not the same as an attempted coup
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u/ReliquaryofSin 14h ago
Don't feed their delusion. There were no riots when Trump was first elected. They're lying for clout and to deflect from J6
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u/Good-Consequence-542 14h ago
No, there were riots…thats easily verifiable; but like I said civil disobedience is not the same as storming federal property in an attempt to install the guy that lost.
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u/SallyStranger 12h ago
Yeah the J20 folks. They were among Trump's earliest victims. He tried hard to prosecute them for protected free speech activities; the prosecutions fell apart but the damage was done. They had their lives disrupted and destroyed.
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u/VerbingNoun413 17h ago
In 2024:
"I'll cheat in the election and openly admit it."