To be fair, it sucks that weirdos had to ruin this for everyone. Not everyone who has them is a creep. I used to have a pair and liked using them for hiking pictures or video and listening to podcasts or youtube on my phone. My girlfriend used them for her instagram posts when she was doing hair. Now everyone instantly resorts to calling people creeps, when some people just enjoy the cool technology.
I can’t stand that particularly when someone is blasting music too, even if it’s something that I would usually like it’s irritating as hell coming from a shitty phone speaker and feels like it’s drilling through my skull
Or making/receiving calls with their phone on speaker. I don’t give a fuck what plans you’re making for later or the hotshot meeting you’re bragging about as if anyone else gives a shit. Just shut the fuck up, or take your phone off speaker.
Holy crap, yes- It’s not a goddamn walkie-talkie! Unbelievable the kind of lack of situational awareness and “main character syndrome” that behaviour requires.
I guess when screens got bigger, and people used them for gaming/reading/video/media consumption to break the monotony of the commute.
I don't go on public transport a massive amount at rush hour, but if I did, I bet 70% of people would be on their phone (or another device). We can't stop it now - we just have to rely on the public to respect others.
And although there are plenty of pricks out there, the majority of people just want to keep themselves to themselves and wear earphones.
"No cellphones" is never going to happen again on public transport.
"No cellphone" never meant that you were not permitted to have a cellphone on a train, it really just meant "no phone call". Nobody cared if you played snake on your flip phone.
I go to school every day by underground. Sometimes when I’m in a carriage with my friends we’re the only ones talking and making noises cuz everyone else are on their phones, the realization of which makes me kinda uncomfortable. I of course have no right to say because I’m also always on my phone when commuting alone.
Was never a thing? It's always been "keep your stuff quiet/on mute" not "don't literally use it at all." People read newspapers or books before we had phones.
"Attention, passengers. There is a wanker in Seat 22F who is wearing smart glasses. Please point and laugh as we make our way to the next stop. ETA ten minutes."
If I wanted to do that, I'd get one of those cameras that look like a shirt button and just walk around with that. There are a million ways for creeps to be creeps without wearing smart glasses.
The thing is smart glasses are used on others in public without their consent unlike computers so this is a false equivalency. No one has problems with people using computers in public or cameras because it is easy to tell if youre being filmed.
I'm renting a pair for a bit. It's nice and the live translation is great but they lack speakers and the interface is terrible. I'd give it another generation or two.
My uncle is essentially deaf and I've been looking into options for him. I'm hoping to find a pair that can transcribe conversations into subtitles in real time on the fly. He really struggles in conversation and that would be a game changer for him. But my knowledge none of the models on the market are quite there yet. I last looked into it about a year ago. Are you saying there are models out there now that can do this?
quite a few translation glasses exist, as do translation headphones
i've used a few. maybe i havent used the best ones. but i didn't find them quite as useful as I expected. trying to switch between reading the HUD translation and interacting with the speaker was somehow more cumbersome and confusing than just using google translate's conversation mode on my phone and glancing at it periodically.
granted, i havent tried any recent ones in like 8 months, and there's a good chance they've gotten better since then
I want the same amount of tech in my glasses as i have in my smart watch. Basically simple notifications, turn by turn directions, and open ear headphones (maybe live translation). I literally cant think of anything else id want out of smart glasses. I dont want full screen coverage and i for sure dont want a camera
I think a camera could be handy for screenshotting notes, identifying things or more detail for, there's a bunch of nifty things a camera on glasses could do.... but...
I really don't think those things are worth actually having them.
I looked at Xreals, because I thought it'd be cool for youtube etc. When i saw the price and saw it was comparable to a meta quest3, i thought I may aswell get a full vr set for the immersion. Sold it a month later. Very good, excellent in fact, just didn't use it as much as I thought I would.
Aaanyway, after all that, I can see the pros of a camera, but a bit of niftyness isn't worth letting the weirdos run amok with them.
I can definitely see uses for a camera. When I go out I'm taking pictures of plants and asking google "what is this". That would be easier if I were wearing glasses and looked at the flower and asked built in AI assistant. Still, I don't need that feature so much that it's worth risking other people abusing that feature. I don't want my glasses to replace my phone, so as long as I have that then I use that camera. For more advanced video recording, I'll just use a gopro.
As for vr glasses. I see the appeal and don't mind them being a thing, but I wouldnt use one. I want as minimalist screen on my glasses as possible. I don't want to plug into a vr headset and be completely detacted from my surroundings. But again, that's a me decision, I don't have a problem if other people do it.
Rather than asking AI you should consider putting the photos on iNaturalist as an observation. You'll probably get a more accurate identification while contributing to a global biodiversity atlas and various fields of research.
I use the mobile app mostly for identifying spiders and bugs that wander into my home unsolicited. Spider friends get relocated to best location for them to do their thing. Invasive bugs get the squish
Usually when someone suggest a specific app, it's just wall paper over an Ai model. Like "this app tells you what flower it is" is really just "this app sends your photo to chatgpt and then we tell you what chatgpt says".
But inaturalist looks pretty cool. Definitely worth using if it helps conservation efforts
inaturalist has been going for waaaaaay before LLMs became a thing. I've used it for maybe a decade now. It's also way more useful and important than LLMs!
It very much depends whether there are any users interested in identifying the type of organisms you upload, I keep tabs on a few specific groups of fungi in my country so I'm often the one doing IDs, but when I upload plants I find it pretty unusual for anyone to confirm my IDs.
I like PictureThis for plants, I've got a degree in horticulture/botany so I know when its guess is very wrong (which is pretty rare for native plants in the UK) and mostly use it because I already know a plant but forgot its name. They hired experienced professional botanists to help train the AI, I worked with one who did it for a while.
The new Apple Watches have functionality that allows for constant audio recording that it can transcribe or provide AI conversation summaries/highlights. Insanity.
I don't believe it allows for direct saving of the full audio clips so it's not quite as invasive as the smart glasses, but very soon many millions of people are going to be recording all audio within their general vicinity via a method that's even harder to spot than the smart glasses.
Smart glasses with cameras and features like this on a smart watch are incredible mobility aids for the blind and deaf, but unfortunately the vast majority of users will just use them to record people without consent. Yes not everyone recording is a pervert and could be doing it for innocent reasons, but we're already surveilled way too much. Making it mainstream for people to have the ability to record others without their knowledge is the last bloody thing we need.
Okay I'm going to defend the camera function for one reason. Whenever my young daughter is playing at the park, going down the slide again and again and again, I can easily take photos and videos of her having fun.
I completetely agree with the negative response towards these thing, there's a lot of dodgy people out there that shouldn't have them.
I got them as a birthday present and wouldn't have bought them myself, but I am really glad do and I can capture moments of my daughter that I wouldn't otherwise have done.
The tech is cool. Even the camera is cool, when used without ill intent. I feel like it just needs a very visible indicator when it's recording and it's pretty much fine. I'm sure people would figure out how to hide it still, but I mean that can be true for any hidden camera.
Now if only I could get some that didn't look completely out of place. I want glasses with extra features, not a clunky piece of technology that is in the rough shape of glasses.
I dont get why that is so hard. There was a company that already had that and Goolge bought them up and they haven't been seen again since. I don't need super AR glasses, I want to be able to see notifications on my lenses. Is that so much to ask for a simple HUD built into some glasses instead of this unnecessary overkill?
the Viture Luma look very much like regular glasses, ive heard good things about them but i havent pulled the trigger yet. no external camera either, just a screen on the inside for VR screens etc (there is a version with cameras though)
Its a pity too. The old ones I was talking about were like 1k a pop and required you to actually go in for a proper fitting, but looked like normal glasses and had a display that was basically invisible if you were the one wearing the glasses. They were aimed as a business oriented HUD glasses for CEO types.
Overpriced, but exactly the kind of thing I was willing to buy if I could afford it. Now its all AR headset shit which is useful, but doesn't even remotely look like normal glasses.
For anyone unfamiliar, this is in the exact same colour, font and art style as the real Transport for London notices, so at first glance it does look official.
Well we will call people nonces as an insult without wanting to specifically call them a paedo- it’s the same as calling someone a twat, but it literally means paedo.
tbh calling someone a nonce is worse than calling them a cunt/ twat because of the specific implications - unless it's linked to a good joke about an actual nonce
I always have to consciously remind myself of this when I see it. Before I learned what it meant, if you'd asked me how many times Ron Weasley calls somebody a nonce in the Harry Potter films I would have guessed at least in the double digits.
Yeah, I really hate how creeps have ruined this tech because I've heard how helpful it can be as a genuine assistive device... I hate to imagine some person who uses them for accessibility getting harassed on public transit
Yeah it's unfortunate. She doesn't even like that she needs them because we're both very anti AI but unless AI suddenly becomes more ethical it's become a necessary evil. I'm sure the tech CEO's are aware of this.
For almost everyone who isn't your girlfriend, it is absolutely not a necessary evil. It is an extremely unnecessary evil. But for a few people, it can help.
Also blind. Bought into the meta glasses early on. Now as a straight white dude I feel like I shouldn't use them. And when traveling they help a ton. Which is a bummer.
I remember when people were laughed at for using ear pieces for their mobile phones. Now people are using two of them and nobody bats an eye.
We're going the same way with smart glasses, and wearing anti facial recognition masks will be the new norm.
My glasses have small magnets set into top, outermost corner of the lenses. We were visiting with some family friends from London and they asked me if my glasses were "those recording glasses"... nope, just magnets for my sunglasses lenses to latch on to. But the idea that people think my glasses are these makes me embarrassed and I don't even have them :*(
I spoke to an optician who told me the only people coming in to have lenses fitted into smart glasses were older men. And… that it’s making the staff uncomfortable that it’s just that demographic.
I don’t care how many women and celebs they pay to put into the ads, there’s a clear market of people buying and wearing them.
Anyone wearing those glasses 1. Doesn’t care about other people’s privacy and their rights. 2 probably needs their hard drives checking.
Or blind. I have a friend who is legally blind, though he can still kind of see, but not in too much detail. He has a pair of these and has them snap a pic and then AI describes in his ear what it is, or even can read things for him. Kind of clever, but sucks that he might come off as a creeper.
Deaf people aren't all older men though. The fact that they're only seeing one demographic highlights that the glasses are (in most cases) not being used for accessibility features.
A lot of older men will have received permanent hearing damage from working in factories, or building sites, clubs, security for football matches ect
Because when they were working in those places there simply wasn't as much health and safety legislation as there is now-a-days. Including mandates for ear defenders over a certain decibel now a day's. I say this as someone who knows multiple older men with hearing damage due to their past work, some of those men do not get on well with hearing aids either and choose to lipread instead.
Sadly assault and stalker victims too. Dashcam was the best money ever spent. Thought Murphy's law would protect me, but ended up thanking the loop recording of 60 seconds BEFORE an incident (the crucial moments).
I can't think of any reason* why you would want to record on a train. But I do feel like "older men" is a group of people more likely to want to play around with new tech.
What exactly is the issue? This whole comment section is confusing to me. How is it any different from smart phones. Are people worried about being filmed? That can easily be done with any smart phone. At least these are on people's faces so you dont need to worry about nefarious angles unless the person wearing them is laying down and looking up between your legs.
Man I love my meta glasses. I use them for fishing and have gotten so much good footage that would have never been recorded without them. I’ve got videos of whales breaching, dolphins jumping, a mako shark doing a flip.
My wife loves them for making how to videos without putting her face in front of the camera. She also uses them to look up issues with her plant. Camera turns off if a strand of hair passes in front of the light though so she has some challenges with them.
This is exactly why I want to get a pair myself. There's so many legitimate reasons to get these that out weight the bad. But the emotions are too high for these. It's just unfortunate
Eh literally the only negative thing I’ve heard about them is on Reddit. I know 6 people with them and they all love them. Can’t let Reddit sway your real life decision making in any way.
i wear them alot as normal sunglasses. got some great shots pov racing on track and hiking and just general activities no ones ever said anything or even noticed them really. not that i record random people though.
I feel like all these people saying anyone who wears them are perverts are either projecting or really full of themselves.
I'm sure a small percentage are people that have had bad things happen to them but getting rid of smart glasses isn't going to get rid of perverts who always find a way to be perverts.
If these have decent cameras with some kind of motion stabilization they'd be awesome for all sorts of outdoor and sporting uses. It's a cool bit of tech that's being ruined by asshole users.
they do, ive got some great footage while racing on the track and even hiking on holiday a few weeks ago, its amazing being able to get footage without wearing a big ass camera. just a shame its being ruined by weirdos.
I was always terrible at taking photos when doing family events. Enjoy living in the moment, you know. Would forget to pull my phone out. I couldn’t be without the glasses now. I have captured so many memories.
I feel like this will just flame a bunch of innocent people and actual creeps won't wear an identifiable camera on their face which is where people are most likely to look.
what kind of perverted things could you film from your eyelevel? seems kindof an overreaction because everyone has a phone with a camera anyway. I could imagine if it was a shoe camera or something lmao but seems like it would be extremely obvious if you were doing pervy things with your giant VR glasses on
Thats the point the commenter was trying to make though. How is that any different than smart phones? I agree with them, this is absolutely a huge overreaction. These things have lights that show when they're being filmed. And if you try to say that can be modified, well you can also buy small cameras you could attach to your shoe for even more creepy behaviour.
With great power comes great responsibility. Unfortunately perverts and paedos aren't really known for their scrupulous behaviours, and these devices are tailored made for deviants to silently have their way.
well it sucks because those disabilities aren’t usually visible. genuine people get harassed because they look creepy and genuine creeps get dismissed because they can lie about it
There is an actual good use of them. There’s a guy in instagram who has MND and it’s his now primary way of recording content and helps him out. But creeps and weirdos have ruined a good thing yet again…
I have a pair of smart glasses…I use them to record holidays as I LOVE renting boats and setting out to sea…so I’ve dropped my phone in the waters once and the glasses were a game changer for me! I record videos of sailing, the sea, sunset…I don’t record people (other than my family who are with me) and I don’t wear them in places like public transport…even if I did I wouldn’t be recording. So what’s the issue? Is it just that people record others without consent?
yup, exactly. if everyone was respectful and only ever recorded people in public (in a way that they can be identified, nobody's mad about being a dot on a cityscape video) with their consent those glasses would not be an issue. unfortunately that isn't the case and that tech allows creeps and pervs to record others without them noticing, so most people have become vigilant to chunky glasses with camera-shaped holes in them
It's that Reddit has permanently deemed these "perv" glasses after a video months ago had a dude pay somebody to have the red light, that indicates videoing, disabled. There's a total lack of critical thinking in that these people for some reason think the $400 smart glasses that you wear on your face are somehow more concealable than a $20 micro camera the size of a button I can have prime delivered next day.
I find this so fucking hilarious - because the biggest users of smart glasses I’ve seen have been women in trades and sports showing first person POV while demonstrating something
depends on which frame you buy. but if you're a tech nerd or you have seen them before. you'll probably be able to tell easily. like I can tell from far away of they're meta smart glasses or not
Here's what I want to know - when did "nonce" start meaning paedo? Because I don't think that's what this sign means, it wouldn't make any sense. I think it just means, "you look like a twat", which is how I remember using that word in the 80s-2000s but now (except here) it always seems to have the other meaning.
You people are fucking insane 😭 all of you have phones, all of those phones have cameras, all of you walk around with your phones out, who the fuck cares?
fr like I already need to wear glasses anyways so having extra features on top honestly sounds pretty useful, though I don’t think the technology is fully there yet from what I have seen
I hate the way this technology has been received. Not by the general public but by those pieces of shit who decided that being a perv in them was acceptable to them and just went about it.
This technology could've been transformative for visually impaired people. AR features could help the visually impaired see a bus number coming down the street, assisted with on foot navigation, reading labels. All of this opportunity for making the world more accessible for people just thrown away because some people can't keep their hands off their dicks.
Thanks for ruining this technology for everyone, forever.
The public outrage is completely justified and totally correct. What could've been a useful thing ruined by fuckheads, yet again.
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u/JudgeJudyJr 18h ago
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