r/interestingasfuck • u/Plus_Flight_3821 • 16h ago

People showing solidarity with 9/11 victims in Tehran, 2001

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u/TwpMun 16h ago

It's almost like people are just people, and regardless of their colour or religion the vast majority just want to get on with their lives. The majority of these people are no more terrorists than the majority of Americans are Jeffrey Dahmer.

Politicians gain from dividing us. If 'we all' realised this the world would be a much safer, better place.

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u/VCTRYDTX 14h ago

It sucks because by the time everyone realizes this it's usually too late. Majority of people running the world today and controlling everything are simply not good people. If everyone came together and started focusing on the same issues they'll all be fucked. This is why they spend billions on controlling narratives or instigating things that result in escalations, distractions, misinformation and hate.

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u/Zinvestor 14h ago edited 13h ago

Dividing the people is the oldest page out of the capitalist playbook

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u/sapntaps 10h ago

Dividing the people is the oldest play of any monarchy or government……….. what???

When the king and queen look over the castle walls and the people are pointing fingers at each other, they sleep in peace at night.

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u/Im_Just_A_Tourist 13h ago

It has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with control of the masses.

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u/GameOfTroglodytes 12h ago

It's not born from capitalism, but it is intrinsic to capitalism. Capitalists sow this kind of division to undercut unionization and worker solidarity which allows the capitalist to further exploit the worker and maximize their own returns. We've seen this in action for over a century in just America. Capitalism, considering wealth is a facet of power, uses the same divide and conquer approach that power-seeking organizations and individuals use because it's all ultimately down to accumulating power. You're right, this predates capitalism because it is just power seeking, and you're wrong since capitalism is an economic system that is inherently power seeking. Literally grow or die.

If you need to be reminded of what capitalism is, it's defining difference from socialism is the private ownership of enterprises wherein individuals can own them whereas socialism requires that the workers are the owners of the enterprise. A market-based economy filled with employee directed enterprises wouldn't look too different from ours today except that it won't be creating and propping up a global cabal of child rapists, speed running the enshitification of all your possessions, or embedding glass in your food to make a couple extra bucks. Before you consider a retort about innovation or choice, just know that the backbone of modern technology is socialist; these projects and products either collectively funded through institutions or by freely associating developers giving their free labor have produced some of the most important enabling technologies for our modern life and economy, all freely shared. Free open source software, a trove of innovation and choices, is a socialist project. We've been fed lies all our lives that dividing our resources and intellect is to the benefit of an elite class is some how a more effective form of organizing our economy than just freely collaborating and sharing.

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u/gogeri2632 2h ago

In Cambodia they literally went around killing people just for wearing glasses because those people were "educated and therefore an enemy of the people"

Seriously bud, read a history book or something.

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u/Elegant_Hold_3020 12h ago

I'm not sure it's only a capitalism issue, I can argue propaganda and spread of hatred is present in communist countries as well 🤔

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u/AstronomerJealous467 7h ago

That’s also… literally what they said in their comment…

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u/GameOfTroglodytes 11h ago edited 11h ago

Hey man, if you could read you would understand I explicitly said it wasn't just a capitalism problem. You might also know that "communist" countries do in fact produce propaganda like all governing institutions as propaganda literally means ideological materials, and lastly you might also know that there are no communist countries now or ever since communism is defined as a stateless society. You can't have a stateless nation, but you can have ideological parties in states that purport to be seeking a communist society but that doesn't make a country communist.

Edit: I'm not a fan of Communists in the Marxist-Leninist camp or any of its derivatives, but words and ideas have meanings for a reason. It's also not a binary choice between capitalism and communism as I laid out a specific model for a market socialist economy, but again you would have had to read my post to get that so...... 🤷‍♂️

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u/wweviking 13h ago

I would say both as Capitilism can and does create division and hate

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u/Im_Just_A_Tourist 13h ago

Yes but it predates capitalism as a system by thousands of years. That desire to control for one's own greed is really the main driver regardless of the system it looks to take advantage of.

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u/Dudewhocares3 12h ago

Murder existed for years before firearms but that doesn’t mean a gun isn’t extraordinary exceptional for the act

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u/justk4y 3h ago edited 3h ago

Not really, the Soviets also used propaganda to try and divide the world. Let alone how the world worked before capitalism……

Capitalism, all though the current version has some flaws, has nothing to do with this.

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u/gogeri2632 2h ago

It literally has nothing to do with capitalism.

Plus it was always communism that divided people into "the working class" and "the ownership class" in order to justify killing millions of people.

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u/Lazy_Story_7521 9h ago

I am starting to realise that people value wrong things when it comes to leaders. We value charismatic leader who can speak (even thought they might be spouting complete bullshit) than a leader who is more knowledgeable and has good policies that actually will make the changes we want. We see that everywhere, not just in politics. The loudest most “charismatic” people like Trump win over less charismatic but vastly more knowledgeable people. It’s sad but true.

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u/Extra_Law6315 12h ago

Can’t wait for our AI overlords to get intelligent enough to realize this and go “…wait”

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u/KuroOni 7h ago

You have to be smart and cunning to be a successful politician, smart people don't do politics, so we are left with idiots and criminals, usually with a silver tongue at the top.

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u/itkovian 2h ago

The guillotine still exists. It used to work just fine for rebooting a society.

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u/FitButterscotch4062 14h ago

As an American, I love people. And alot of us are just like me.

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u/deadgvrlinthepool 14h ago

If I have one message to give to the secular American people, it’s that the world is not divided into countries. The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don’t know each other, but we talk together and we understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

Marjane Satrapi

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u/Key-Anteater-10 13h ago

The division already exists, politicians just weaponize it.

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u/SavingsPreference362 15h ago

If only people could look beyond themselves ❤️

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u/Smokey_02 15h ago

Political positions are by their very nature magnets for people who want power. People who want power are very rarely people who should be trusted with it. Wanting power means wanting to use that power, and who do you think they're going to use that power for? Themselves. Government is a system with a perverse incentive at its core.

This is my long way of saying that people can look beyond themselves, but prestigious government positions are almost never filled by those who can. Sometimes you get a radical thinker who actually does care about people and that's why they got into politics, but from what I've seen most aren't that.

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u/zedzag 12h ago

Not just that , even the govt of Iran officially sent their condolences

https://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/11/12/khatami.interview.cnna/

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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 3h ago

They official suspended their "Death to America" chant for the day. Sounds weird, but true.

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u/Vachie_ 14h ago

I thought this was the same as talking about how Canada supported us. Except no on talked about terrorists in that conversation.

I must be out of the racist bigotry ideology loop

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u/NoAcanthaceae688 13h ago

Solidarity in the human struggle.

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u/AlyDAsbaje 12h ago

Absolutely! It was amazing to see the solidarity

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u/DarklordTaric 10h ago

The majority of these people are no more terrorists than the majority of Americans are the US military.

There, I fixed it for you.

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u/AcheapRolexWatch 11h ago

We're all in this together, out here trying to make it... might as well be pleasant about it.

-Dale Savage

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u/drdildamesh 9h ago

This isnt just getting on with their lives. Its empathy, the human condition is empathy, and those who have none are missing out.

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u/Procedure_Gullible 12h ago edited 12h ago

NONE of these people are terrorists. neither Iraniens or Irakiens had anything to do with 9/11. the Muslim world didnt have anything to do with it. but USA has been using it as an excuse to do horrors around the world ever since. My message to americans is please change the way you look at the world

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u/ComprehensiveLock501 3h ago

Correcto, fue un hombre esucado en USA y con buenas relaciones, financio la.campaña de el.arbusto y su pais arabia, y USA. Ataca afganistan y irak, vaya vaya

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u/AyoGGz 12h ago

I love this comment because it's so true. We are so divided on religion, politics, etc. America was supposed to be the where each of us are accepted for who we are despite what we are

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u/PurpleMTL 7h ago

People are people. The ones that aren't people want to keep us separated and hating each other. That's how they keep their power. Divide and conquer.

The truth is that without the people there would be no power to conquer. Imagine if everyone decided that they no longer want to take part in society tomorrow. The rich powerful people would become nothing at all. Just another bare bum in the shower. As they should be. Because they are.

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u/KardelSharpeyes 13h ago

I didn't see many Americans crying or supporting Iranians when that school was bombed earlier this year. Iranians have a lot more to lose than Americans when it comes to protesting or public displays.

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u/Logical_Worry3993 12h ago

What is this supposed to mean though? Who is 'dividing' and trying to call Iranian people terrorists? The regime is terrorist for sure, the Iranians will tell you that

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u/Aware_Cheesecake_519 16h ago

Solidarity is everything.

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u/Longjumping_Foot_736 13h ago

We pissed all that goodwill away.

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u/DrawingAlarming7350 16h ago

Unless your countrys only solidarity is to countries commiting genocide.

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u/ginosapiens 16h ago

That's why fuck Israel

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u/Undefined_definition 15h ago

Quarter of a century ago.

25 years.

This is more distant than 2010 was from 1987..

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u/m4cmi11er 15h ago

Insane to think about, time is flying.

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u/-Mubar 15h ago

Fuck

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u/Freeway267 7h ago

Ok but 2010 was a long time ago.

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u/saysomethingplesz 7h ago

i think this is how numbers work

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u/USAFVet92 13h ago

And while they were doing this the current president of the United States was calling into radio shows to brag that he now owned the tallest building in downtown Manhatten.

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u/TwanTheMan11 7h ago

And now that asshole is bombing Teheran, killing innocents because he wants to show how big is dick is

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u/USS-Intrepid 7h ago

And also pretending that he was a victim of 9/11

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u/FriedEldenRings 42m ago

You didn't hear? Trump was lifting firemen to safety and uncovering families buried under the rubble. And he didn't even realize that his building was the tallest after the WTC fell.

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u/MollyViper 6h ago

But his dick is like a mushroom

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u/ResortMain780 7h ago

And Netanyahu gloated on TV how this would work out great for israel

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u/FriedEldenRings 43m ago

Republicans have always profited off of turning us hateful toward others. War is the goal, 9/11 was a great excuse. I don't even know what the excuse was this time, I guess trump didn't like the nuclear deal that was already made with Iran?

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u/4everadumdum 8h ago

And the then president of US called Iran an Axis of Evil even though Iran helped them with their war against Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan while showering Saudis with weapons, despite Al-Qaeda being the result of Saudi funded Wahabi schools throughoit the world. Not just 9-11 but all the other major terrorist ic attacks In Europe.

I always wonder how things would have been different if pigs that we call politicians did the right thing and not the thing that makes them most amount of money.

They just kept pushing and pushing the Mullah pigs in Iran into a corner and here we are 25 years later. We are all suffering. Everyone between USA and Iran.

Fuck them all. Fuck Putin, Fuck Trump, Fuck Xi and Fuck Khamenei (Sr and Jr).

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u/CyberTyrantX1 13h ago

Watching this depresses me because we had an opportunity to make things so much better and we squandered it. And that’s putting it lightly. It will take decades to get back to baseline after what Trump has done.

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u/myflesh 12h ago

And baseline was far from good to begin  with.

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u/totalkpolitics 11h ago

With Iran we actually had a pretty good baseline because of Obama's JCPOA. That deal was working and could have lead to further peace if not for Trump.

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u/myflesh 9h ago

Do  not forget he had to do it in secret because  rest of the democratic leadership would of tanked it, and that Biden or any other Democratic Leadership in power did not try and fix it, and Harris randomly said while running for president that Iran is the biggest threat to the world during her DNC speech (in the middle of literally Russia invading an allied nation and active genocide.)

Yes, Trump made it worse, but we can not argue for certain we would be in something similar now or eventually. 

My point was not that it is not worse. My point is the ubderline larger issues would still be present. And that we should not dream of going back to Biden or Obama world. If we must do so much work we should work to a true solution.And a truly good world. 

Edit: I want to make sure it is clear I agree Obama's peace deal with Iran was amazing, and even me an anti-obama person at the time was shocked and supported. Sadly it is a system at play and not individuals. And the systems are the baseline and it is gross.

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u/squngy 5h ago

and that Biden or any other Democratic Leadership in power did not try and fix it

I mean, how could they fix it?
US broke the deal, Iran wasn't going to trust a new deal would not be broken just as easily. And in hind sight, we know that it would have been.

You need Iran to trust the deal will be kept, or they have no reason to keep it on their end.

A lot of the damage Trump is doing is not fixable.

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage 7h ago

Even before that, Iran was willing to work with the U.S. in the Iraq war. there were even talks between the two countries before Bushes “Axis of Evil” speech made them back out

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u/therealsoggi 7h ago

Nothing will change until your society changes, Trump is a terrible person and not fit for being president, but he's just a symptom of your society and it's huge problems

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u/fstbm 10h ago

These people or their relatives were murdered by the regime during the protests

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u/Massive-Lime7193 7h ago

Or by american bombs over these last few months

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u/packer8405 13h ago

Division is control. Coexistence is freedom.

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u/MayKadoody4America 13h ago

Iranians are good people.

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u/Wowthefrea 16h ago edited 16h ago

Today hegseth said "Our warriors are fighting people that wished us death and cheered on 9/11." while referring to Iran

And still no apologies for killing 170 Iranian elementary students in the first hour of the war. In a surprise attack!

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u/Sweaty-Freedom-4034 15h ago

"Acc... Acc... Acc... Kan... Tuh... Bil... Vghhg. No what's this word?" - Hegseth

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u/alcapwnage0007 15h ago

takes swig from flask -Hegseth

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 14h ago

Family guy really nailed it tbf.

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u/KungFuJosher 15h ago

The conservatives sub is full of this. I know they aren't the sharpest tool in the shed but being this dumb warrants a hefty fine. I'm no fan of the Iranian government but treating it a monolith is plain stupid. Its like accusing the whole of US as blood thirsty evangelist bible thumpers that don't know where Belgium is on a map.

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u/CombinationRough8699 15h ago

The Iranian people are some of the biggest victims of their government.

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u/brandonw00 13h ago

Lmao have you met the average American?

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u/ConsciousPhase8480 14h ago

Anything to “own the libs”

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u/JayteeFromXbox 15h ago

When it comes to international politics what other choice do countries have? The USA got a mulligan on Trump 1, I don't think you get another one after throwing him back in. Nobody knows what lunatic Americans might elect next, and nobody in power seems like they want to fix the problems with the electoral college or gerrymandering.

I agree on an individual level though, I have some American friends and they're great people, and I feel bad for them because life (the rich) has basically dealt them a shit hand and they have no choice but to play it.

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u/Strike_Mission 13h ago

Persian people under a despotic ideologically driven Islamic fundamentalist regime. I wonder if these were part of the 40,000 the regime murdered that weekend in January this year. Just terrible for them.

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u/townandthecity 9h ago

The people of Iran are uniquely wonderful people. So much brilliance in that country but also so much kindness.

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u/mushed-patato 9h ago

We are different than our government

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u/Char-car92 11h ago

Fox: “watch new clip where Tehran residents celebrate the destruction of the twin towers”

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u/FractalTsunami 6h ago

Literally what the media was like

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u/KennethLaneHarbor 15h ago

Shows how much the general public and the hardline regime are two totally different things. Sad how much potential for better relations got trashed over the decades

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u/Procedure_Gullible 12h ago

as much as i have lots of problems with the IRGC, they had nothing to do with 9/11. like nothing at all.

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u/Luci-Noir 15h ago

The Iranian government didn’t support Al Qaeda and fought against isis…

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u/tsuness 13h ago

Didn't the Iranian government condemn the attacks and express sympathy to the US after the attacks?

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u/Tricky-Finance-7043 11h ago

Hell yeah. Iran also attempted to help us hunt Al Qaeda down, regularly detaining suspects for the US in an effort to normalize things with the west. Of course after a while we kind of gave them the finger. Very depraved government here in the US

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u/Lftwff 7h ago

Early on the US coordinated military operations with the Iranians in the border region with Afghanistan, there were serious attempts to normalize realtions and then bush needed a third country for his axis of evil speech and they threw Iran in with Iraq and north Korea

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u/Luci-Noir 13h ago

Yes. They’ve also had their own problems with them and had attacks inside the country.

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u/JMurdock77 13h ago

Given to understand Soleimani (the general Trump drone-striked in Iraq right before the pandemic when he was there at the invitation of the Iraqi Prime Minister for Iraqi-mediated talks between Iran and Saudi Arabia) offered to help us in Afghanistan right up until Bush publicly lumped Iran into his Axis of Evil (consisting of three countries which had fuck-all to do with 9/11).

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u/wolfydude12 14h ago

If the US kept it's nose out of Iranian or the middle east for the last 60+ years, I bet there wouldn't be a hard-line regime who constantly chants death to America.

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u/Tricky-Finance-7043 11h ago

You’re right. The horrid ass sanctions we have forced them to eat since they overthrew the dictator we gave them has definitely rubbed them wrong too. Just evil decision after evil decision by this American nation.

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u/Logical_Worry3993 12h ago

I mean the US was pretty good allies with Iran prior

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u/Icantdoitidk 13h ago

The Iranian's literally denounced the attacks after they happened.....

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u/Crazy-Blacksmith-336 7h ago

America is the reason the supposed "evil regime" came in the first place

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u/xorporx 6h ago

Your comment is how propaganda distorts reality. Turning evidence against it into confirmation of evil Iran. 

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u/Numerous-Stand-1841 14h ago

But Mark Levin said all Muslims bad

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u/ConsciousPhase8480 14h ago

He’s just an old fuck who wouldn’t shut up at times when needed

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u/MammothMarch 12h ago

Iran isn't actually filled with muslims, everyone there is labled muslim at birth

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u/Opening-Aardvark-910 8h ago

As an Iranian living in Iran, the vast majority of the Iranian people are no longer Muslim; many of them even hate that religion due to the horrible actions of the Islamic Regime over the past 47 years

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u/Zinda_2 5h ago

For the majority of Muslims, Iranians are not Muslims since the time of the Safavid state

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u/donadit 5h ago

When 9/11 happened, the only country that didn’t condemn the attacks and express condolences to the US was Iraq (later reversed in Oct)

Even countries like Russia, China, North Korea and Afghanistan’s taliban (though they denied that Osama could be behind the attacks) expressed solidarity with the US

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u/ItchyCartographer44 15h ago

The opportunities, lives, and treasure we squandered after that moment is staggering..

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u/PsychologicalTree885 8h ago

I remember Iran reaching out to help with intelligence and being refused

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u/Joker_1415 5h ago

they already know weeks before 911 who the culprit is, they just need to wait for the dermatologist appointment

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u/EconomistSecret253 6h ago

It’s crazy that they showed more compassion and empathy towards our country, than our country has ever shown towards theirs.

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u/Fresh_Comparison2983 10h ago

I am Iranian and have never seen or heard any Iranian being happy about what happened that day!

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u/Frostgaurdian0 6h ago

No one would or should feel happy when a great number of people die in a disaster or a conflict. Those who does are monsters.

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u/Fresh_Comparison2983 6h ago

Also, those who used people’s blood and suffering to push their agenda and shed more blood are monsters.

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u/DEEPCOCKGALACTIC69 7h ago

Iran even assisted the US in Afghanistan for a time

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u/Fresh_Comparison2983 7h ago

I was referring more to the people. Cause our government is very complicated!

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u/Valrax420 5h ago

As an American I always remind other Americans that the Iranian government and Iranian people are different.

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u/DEEPCOCKGALACTIC69 7h ago

Oh yes. I just thought that was a surprising fact on top

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u/Lyonwytchwardrobe 13h ago

People in these comments have no idea do they lol.

Iran has been fighting against islamic revolution for a long time. Not saying Islam as an evil religion but the people in Tehran don’t want to be ruled under Sharia Law.

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u/Andrewabid 13h ago

Also iranians are shia

Al qaeda is not the biggest fan of shias

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u/Logical_Worry3993 2h ago

So you read this comment say that Iranians fight Islam, and you decide to say 'it's about shia vs sunni'

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u/Exotic-Cartoonist816 8h ago

Haters will say this is fake

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u/VulcanHullo 4h ago

It's a forgotten fact that the Muslim world as a rule stood with America post-9/11. There was even significant support for the invasion of Afghanistan because even conservative voices could respect "they harmed you and you went to get them and those that hid them".

The real issue emerged in 2003 with the Iraq War. That was readily pitched as a sign that the US was waging a war against Islam itself, radicalising support for the hardliners. It also screwed Afghanistan because troop numbers dropped and suddenly neighbouring states were more willing to allow people through. The Taliban went from a badly depleted force to one able to renew itself and dig in.

There's arguments that Bush did more to further Bin Laden's plans than 9/11 itself, and cases like the Iraq War and how it turned the Muslim world do make that argument harder to refute.

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u/Ajwad6969 4h ago

Most people anywhere don't hate one and another, its the fucking political group that benefit from it!

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u/Futurefreemanalive 13h ago

At the end of the day, some human decency has to prevail.

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u/ChimpoSensei 12h ago

Much like the US, it’s not the people that are the problem its the leadership.

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u/Cherry_Bomb_127 7h ago

On one hand, I agree completely . However the Iranian government literally offered to help the USA hunt down the terrorists and was doing that until Bush gave his axis of evil speech.

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u/SnowBoardx22 12h ago

Some might remember every country around the world (with the exception of Iraq) condemned 9/11.

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u/Redd_tModsSuckAss 9h ago

Dont forget, the only nation denying having anything to do with the death of Charlie Kirk is Israel

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u/BlessKurunai 10h ago

And Iraq had all the reasons to not sympathize. The US proceeded to cause fifteen thousand 9/11 there

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u/_R0Ns_ 7h ago

It was never Muslims against the US it was Al Qaeda vs the US.

Yes Al Qaeda members are Muslims but they do not speak for all Muslims.

Don't forget that Iran is currently at war with the US, they have zero reasons to show solidarity.

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u/MakingWaves24_7 15h ago

All the World is their stage… Real humans know, around the globe, we want peace and prosperity for everyone. Unfortunately, the powerbrokers spread evil and hate.

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u/claybine 14h ago

Bless them and their empathetic spirits.

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u/Away-Ad394 11h ago

Good people!

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u/Bradfinger 15h ago

The idea was to invade Iran after Iraq, but the insurgency and disastrous results changed the plans.

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u/Ordinary_Study_2175 14h ago

The US had a golden opportunity to unite the world (I realize it is more complicated than this simple thought) in so many ways. Too bad it turned into us vs them

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u/Eat_Turnip2193 9h ago

If they did unite the world, how would they make money from their military industrial complex ?

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u/ImprovementUnhappy 12h ago

Its not complicated, we just got greedy

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u/HorselessHorseman 14h ago

Only politicians win by dividing us and making us dislike others different from us

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u/SwingLord420 8h ago

We are all ruled by insane people 

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u/CustardCarpet 13h ago

The media would censor this now.

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u/BuddhistSagan 12h ago

ZBS/ZNN/Fox help Trump blast his Islamophobia firehose of bs

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u/ronniedark 6h ago

Everyone mourned 9/11

But then you monsters destroyed Iraq.

You fuckers really do your best to make it impossible to empathise with you.

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u/JerseyTeacher78 13h ago

I remember watching this. And feeling how universal the pain is when people are victims of hate. Of any and all kinds of hate. They understood it better that we did... because it was a sad reality for them. No one deserves this. Not anyone.

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u/GreatKaleidoscope-93 12h ago

People are kind, people are good.

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u/PuzzleheadedBill4383 10h ago

Gets bombed anyway by USA....

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u/Vanille97 8h ago

You want solidarity? Look at the face of NY Mayor
Pretty solid solidarity.

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u/paumpaum 4h ago

Sadly, most Americans are too ignorant to understand what the hell is going on here.

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u/Plastic-Blueberry-57 1h ago

And it was a saudian who commited these attacks....

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u/xExerionx 16h ago

guess their views have shifted... never forget the 120 children killed by the us in the first week..

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u/stackens 16h ago

No they were doing the “death to America” chants back then too, but they famously suspended them for a time following 9/11. Kind of shows their hearts weren’t really in it

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u/beyondocean 15h ago edited 14h ago

I absolutely hate how the cultural context is lost when it is literally translated. In Hindi we use “murdabad” which would literally mean “death to”. And we use it during every protest, “Government murdabad” would literally translate to “death to the government “. But the sentiment is to condemn, not call for actual death. When you say “Fuck Trump” it would be literally translated to “ you want to have sex with trump”, but the actual sentiment was to condemn him. Context gets lost in translation.

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u/MeliodasTA 16h ago

I mean if some country kept fucking bombing you and replacing your democratically elected leaders with dictators you'd hate them too

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u/RadicalSasquatchUSA 15h ago

Or maybe the acts of a few zealots don’t really reflect the actual will of the people? Like how most of the citizens of the US have no desire to be bombing people anywhere but our govt keeps finding reasons to. Weird.

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u/212312383 15h ago

even more than that, after 9/11 iranian leadership was thinking of allying with the US to fight sunni terrorists. In fact, Soleimani, the general that trum killed, actually invaded afganistan to secure airstrips for Us planes to be able to land on. The Taliban hated Iran too so Iran saw a chance to take out a common enemy.

The alliance informally ended with Bush's axis of evil speech where he identified Iran as a member.

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u/Logical_Worry3993 12h ago

That's just... false? People in Iran don't care about "death to America" they chant deat h to the Islamic Republic. The regime supporters however, yeh they do, I wouldn't bet that any of them were in that crowd

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u/HeadBelt1527 12h ago

The president of Iran offered condolences even  https://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/11/12/khatami.interview.cnna/

And a few months later at the next state of the union Bush labeled then as part of the "new axis of evil" https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002-03/press-releases/bush-labels-north-korea-iran-iraq-axis-evil

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u/Key_Drawer_3581 7h ago

And all it took for Fox to divide y'all was to show the exact same footage.

Eat shit,  America.

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u/Ok_Muscle_3770 6h ago

BJP Right Wingers in Indian subs posting videos claiming that“Palestinians celebrated 9/11” will pretend this never happened.

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u/Zaghloul1919 14h ago edited 14h ago

Well seeing how the second intifada was raging around the same time with Israel launching military operations as well as settler attacks with US weaponry/support It would not have been a surprise.

At the same time Palestinian reactions varied considerably. Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat publicly condemned the attacks, offered condolences to Americans, and Palestinian groups also held a candlelight vigil outside the U.S. Consulate in East Jerusalem. CNN’s reporting that day explicitly described the celebrations as “sporadic incidents” while noting the Palestinian leadership’s condemnation.

The New Yorker, for example, reported celebrations while simultaneously noting that most people it encountered expressed horror and sympathy.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/from-our-correspondents/september-11-2001

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u/trashcan_paradise 11h ago

How many other places on Earth had "sporadic incidents" of celebration on September 11th, though? It's commendable that a good number of Palestinians showed solidarity with Americans that day, but any amount of people celebrating acts of religiously-motivated terrorism is cause for concern.

As for Arafat, his condolences come off as hollow after he walked away from the negotiation table at Camp David in 2000, where he could have legitimately started the new millennium with the creation of a sovreign Palestinian state and instead launched the Second Intifada while still pretending to be a partner for peace.

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u/Nikodemios 15h ago

Iran really is special, the peoples of surrounding Arab nations were generally more jubilant

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u/Ahmari90 12h ago

One of the few places left in the Middle East/Western Asia not Arabized after the Islamic conquest of 600CE.

Persian identity and culture predates Islam by a millennium.

Edit: a word

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u/AnyBad7112 15h ago

Meanwhile that Israeli woman on the news with the towers burning behind her had the biggest ear to ear smile talking about how great it is people get to see what Israel deals with every day 

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u/Openly_Unknown7858 11h ago

Jarvis, I'm low on karma. Make this about israel.

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u/ZuluIsNumberOne 11h ago

meanwhile every city in palestine was full of celebration and people passing around sweets

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u/Stevko_1 14h ago

Like most places. The people are good. It's the government that is the problem.

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u/Procedure_Gullible 12h ago

as much as the governement sucks, its important to note that the Iranian governement and people had nothing to do with 9/11.

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u/cognitive_dissent 10h ago

should also be stated that the west, US included, always snipped all iranian attempts to have legitimate elected governments over the years because $$$

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u/catsrcool89 15h ago

How are any of these 911 posts interesting as fuck

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u/LateralEntry 14h ago

Iran and US could have been natural allies - Al Qaeda hated Shia Iran too. But the whole “taking dozens of US hostages and backing terror groups that killed Americans” thing really soured relations.

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u/Logical_Worry3993 12h ago

You won't believe this... they used to be allies

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u/LateralEntry 11h ago

Under the Shah. Totally different than the Islamic Republic. It’s like saying US and Japan used to be enemies

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u/BulbusDumbledork 8h ago

the u.s. and iran were allies after 9/11 too. iranian government condemned the attacks. qassem soleimani, the same one, worked directly with the u.s. to fight al qaeda.

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u/Foreign_Scar3052 13h ago

The people are good, governments fuck it up. The people are good no matter where you go

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u/1000sEastward 12h ago

I remember watching so many people around the world mourning with us. It was amazing to see such an outpouring of love from so many. It really impressed me what the USA meant to so many people. A lot of that has been burned down now

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u/PsychologicalCash203 12h ago

Saw a similar video and it showed also Palestine's reaction

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u/StrangePenalty6676 8h ago

Let's be honest: Yasser fucking Arafat donated blood.

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u/PasicT 8h ago

Impossible, we were always told that muslims celebrated the attacks worldwide and insulted if we ever claimed otherwise.

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u/Neilix190 7h ago

Weird how the iranians were like this while the palistinians were Celebrating

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u/Few-Let-9004 6h ago

Iranians💚🦁❤️civilized and kindhearted.
They dont deserve their criminal government.

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u/MrPommeDeTerre 15h ago

You know Bin Laden was Saudi, right? That's not the same as Iranian. WTF people...

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u/magotartufo 15h ago

Nowhere did OP say that.

I think this post is a response to the comments of Pete Hegseth, who said that Iranians "cheered on 9/11". People know he was saudi (at least I hope so).

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u/LukeyLeukocyte 15h ago

Did the post say otherwise?

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u/SprungusDinkle 15h ago

Why do you think that's relevant, or a thing that people are not aware of?

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u/AgreedSmalls 14h ago

Yeah and? Back in the 2000’s, a lot of people didn’t care. Hell, you have some people today that still don’t care and group them all together. OP did not do that.

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u/justk4y 15h ago

But at the same time, Islamophobes are attacking Mamdani for being a Muslim mayor of NYC

He isn’t even from the Arab regions, he has an Ugandan background……

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u/DifficultFun6767 12h ago

his parents are indian who moved to uganda. He is a naturalized citizen in the United States.

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u/wootz94 8h ago

Just heard mossad was working with the room partner of 9/11 hijacker atta

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u/LingonberrySea6247 3h ago

If the Internet said it, it must be true