r/clevercomebacks • u/ALBERT4_5WESKER • 1d ago
That’s not a rebate plan. That’s fantasy accounting.
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u/Harrigan_Raen 1d ago
IF we have a surplus, why is the deficit going up?
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u/MyNameIsRay 1d ago
The answer is actually really simple: We're in the post-truth era. If Trump says it's so, it is.
There is no deficit, there is no national debt, and we've always been at war with Eastasia.
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u/hogester79 1d ago
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
George Orwell - 1984.
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u/schwartztacular 1d ago
So the widow of the airman who was killed in Eastasia is entitled to benefits, right?
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u/Kind-Meeting2573 1d ago
Wait weren’t will supposed get a 2g rebate check for all the money Doge saved? Still waiting on those…….
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u/GdoubleWB 1d ago
They’re in the mail with your tariff checks.
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u/AndrewTheAverage 1d ago
Except Biden stolen then from you. He collected the millions of checks from your mail boxes, opened them, and deposited them in his account using Hunters laptop!
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u/Arejhey311 1d ago
It was $5k for Doge & $2k for tariff rebates. People still believing they’ll actually get anything is crazy
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u/Kind-Meeting2573 1d ago
Yea I looked it back up after posting….THATS the crazy part that a very large population of people still believe these lies….it really is a very large cult
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u/Arejhey311 1d ago
They really believe the guy well known for never paying anyone his whole life is definitely going to pay them
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u/Old_Cheetah_5138 1d ago
Fool me once...Third time's the charm! This one is definitely coming true.
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u/DarkBladeMadriker 1d ago
We were also already supposed to get tarriff checks for all the crazy money being pumped into the U.S. by other countries, you know, cause thats at all how tariffs work.
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u/IncreaseFuzzy216 1d ago
Yeah, seems like those promises are often just smoke and mirrors. It can be pretty annoying to wait for something that never arrives.
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u/Kind-Meeting2573 1d ago
Politics have always been smoke and mirrors but they always delivered just enough to keep things okay….now we just blatant corruption and out-rite lies that 30 some million people still believe
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u/DrunkenDude123 1d ago
No didn’t you read the quote? The president is saying if you keep them in power then we will share in SOME of the benefit of this “incredible wealth” they are creating. That means if it ever existed then it was never originally meant to be shared with us in the first place!
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u/carlnepa 1d ago
And in the midst of this "incredible wealth" the nation swiftly approaches $41,000,000,000,000 in debt. Something just ain't right here.
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u/Darth_Pinda 1d ago
And 1/3 of that made by the tangerine toddler. Why he still isn't impeached yet... I keep wondering.
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u/DarkBladeMadriker 1d ago
Because the people who could impeach him are too busy making shitloads of money because of him.
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u/ManyThing2187 1d ago
He was impeached twice already. Whole lot of good that did us.
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u/hedzup00 1d ago
if the tariffs make so much money, why not pay down the record level of debt you just reached
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u/ViciousFlowers 1d ago
Also if they are rolling in so much money, why can’t they send the checks before the midterms? 🤔
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u/b_buddd 1d ago
That tarrif money came from me
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u/antiramie 1d ago
If you vote for us you might get this stolen money back.
Hint: You won't.
These people are fucking traitors and should be facing appropriate punishment, but alas tens of millions of citizens are pieces of shit like them.
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u/Ok_Opinion3395 1d ago
Just give trickle down economics another 70 years people. Jeez have some patience!
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u/Gogglesed 1d ago
-70 years later-
Major economic reform results in universal basic income and wealth equality.
Republicans: See? We told you it would trickle down! We were right all along!
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u/HuntertheGoose 1d ago
Not from USA, but haven't they pulled this move several times before and then just... don't pay you guys?
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u/NikkolaiV 1d ago
Fella, I'm not that stupid. It fucking HURTS to see how many people around me are, though...
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u/Sad_Highlight_9059 1d ago edited 1d ago
The Trump regime is already having to pay back the tariffs, but not to consumers. Which is definitely something they could have made happen. Republicans could have legislated that the tariff refunds go back to consumers, not businesses, but they didn't. This is all a transparent bribe to get support.
Also, just a reminder, if you are a conservative who is unhappy with Trump, and have thought at all about how a Dem Congress could stop him after the midterms, then I want you to remember 1 thing.
CONGRESS CAN STOP HIM NOW. YOUR REPUBLICAN SENATORS & REPRESENTATIVES ARE ALL COWARDS WHO WON'T STAND UP TO PRESIDENT PEDO McPOOPY-PANTS.
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u/FortunateInsanity 1d ago
I’m now in the downward slope of just waiting to see where the bottom of the stupid barrel is. I no longer have hope. The new levels of stupid we have achieved in the US over the past 2 years have each been an awakening for me.
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u/EnergyHumble3613 1d ago
Add it to the pile of other monetary promises that aren’t being paid out.
Pretty sure people are already owed $2000.
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u/Burned_Out_Paradise 1d ago
Well then, there are a lot of ‘Muricans beyond help… Seriously.. they’ll be waiting with their hands out..
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u/Zealousideal_Two6045 1d ago
The funniest part is the US debt has already rose by 3.8 trillion dollars from conalds 20 month term.
If that number were 3.9 trillion then it would be about 15,000 per person.
Has life gotten better?
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u/Strict-Carrot4783 1d ago
you are beyond help
Which is why civil war is all but inevitable. Republicans need to be purged.
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u/B0wmanHall 1d ago
So who exactly is currently benefiting from the "incredible wealth they are creating"? Hmmm
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u/BroseppeVerdi 1d ago
Just a reminder: This is IN ADDITION to the $2,000 tarrif checks they promised earlier this year, the $9,000 per child checks promised last week, and the $5,000 DOGE dividend checks from 2025.
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u/purpleplez 1d ago
Not one conversation on how illegal this is! I pray everyone with half a brain sees through the lie. But I doubt it.
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u/Vacant-stair 1d ago
What's to stop Democrats from promising the exact same thing? It's their money too.
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u/loricomments 1d ago
Returning our own money is not sharing the wealth. And the national debt would like a word about the "wealth we're generating".
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u/Butt_Sex_And_Tacos 1d ago
If there are still people left to run the numbers on this administration when it’s finally over, it is going to be mind blowing how much money these people have siphoned both out of the taxpayers and the economy, not to mention all the various scams they’ve been running their supporters through the whole way. It will probably be known as one of the most malicious wealth transfers in history.
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u/HoneyBadgerLive 1d ago
Vance: "if you vote for us, we'll give you back to money we took from you."
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u/IngloriousMustards 1d ago
Oh I see, so he’s just re-promising the earlier broken promise of a tariff rebate!
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u/Delicious_Invite_850 1d ago
I am hoping this is a sign of desperation. Meaning they know they are going to be slaughtered at the poles moving forward.
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u/Pale_Horror_853 1d ago
The wealth the government creates should go to benefit all Americans. Not to mention WE ARE THE ONES PAYING FOR THE TARIFFS! They are all arrogant, detached, condescending pricks.
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u/MessagingMatters 1d ago
Remember when Republicans cared about the national debt? Oh right, that's only when a Democrat is in the White House.
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u/Maximus15637 1d ago
Remember when we were going to forgive all 1.5 trillion of federal student debt but conservatives lost their shit saying it was unaffordable? And now.... crickets? This would be MORE costly since it would come out of the existing budget immediately, forgiving debt would only constrain future income while also turbo-boosting the economy in the mean time.
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u/Miserable_History795 1d ago
For those too thick to understand, he's bribing Americans to vote R. THAT'S ILLEGAL!
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u/CLONE-11011100 1d ago
Correct under Title 18 U.S. Code 597, it is a serious federal crime to buy or sell votes.
This means using money as an incentive to sway how a person votes or whether they vote. If you are convicted of this crime, you could face up to 2 years in federal prison.
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u/pikachu191 1d ago
What about paying down the national debt if supposedly tariffs has made the US trillions?
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u/ryohazuki224 1d ago
JD: "Tariffs have generated a lot of revenues"
Fucking JD... revenues that the AMERICAN PEOPLE FUCKING PAID FOR YOU ECONOMICALLY IGNORANT EYE-LINED COUCH FUCKER!
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u/CLONE-11011100 1d ago
Under Title 18 U.S. Code 597, it is a serious federal crime to buy or sell votes. This means using money as an incentive to sway how a person votes or whether they vote. If you are convicted of this crime, you could face up to 2 years in federal prison.
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u/paulyp41 1d ago
All you have to do is look at our current deficit. He can’t run the country properly, and everything he says, should be taken with a grain of salt
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u/GdoubleWB 1d ago
The US is the country equivalent of the guy that wears expensive suits and pays for bottle service at the club even though his chequing account is overdrawn and all his credit cards are maxed out.
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u/discussatron 1d ago
Republicans only care about massive transfers of wealth when it goes from the top to the bottom.
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u/Wish_I_was_you 1d ago
This is a plan for blaming Demicrats starting in 2027 because he knows he has created a shit show and there is next to no chance the GOP keeps both sides of Congress, so it's zero risk of coming to fruition.
It's like me making a promise to give everyone reading this $5000 is Haiti puts a man on the moon by November.
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u/DilfTannen 1d ago
"Vote for us so you can get back some of the money we've been taking from you!" Absolutely insane.
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u/rockclimberguy 1d ago
Remember that the tariffs are money out of regular peoples pockets. So I guess trump intends to tax every on $5,000 each so he can pay them off when they vote for him.
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u/peffervescence 1d ago
You mean the tariff money that's been court-ordered to be returned? You mean THAT money homie? They lie easier than Trump can shit his diaper.
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u/___1___1___1___ 1d ago
but I thought wealth was just supposed to naturally trickle down -- why do we need socialistic handouts to make it happen?
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u/kingcaii 1d ago
Americans overwhelmingly spend our money on imports. $5000 to every adult is like sending at least $2500 to Japan or China
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u/NO_FIX_AUTOCORRECT 1d ago
Ponzi scheme. That's what they tell you to get you to invest in a ponzi scheme
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u/Objective_Ticket 1d ago
I know a senior director in a company that was hit by tariffs, they are now being paid back. They have had something like $100mn+ so far, and it’s going nowhere near the customer.
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u/FreeInvestigator5239 1d ago
Only a fool would believe that the pedophile-in-chief is going to give them a $5,000 check for voting for republicans. Which means the MAGA folk are hooked.
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u/ffmich01 1d ago
Also if we really do have this massive surplus, how come we also have a massive deficit? Including 2 Trillion in deficits and counting this fiscal year and $168 Billion last month alone!if you have so much money coming in, why are you still borrowing a TON of money?
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u/BaconThief2020 1d ago
The claim was the tariffs would pay down the national debt. That didn't happen either.
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u/OLVANstorm 1d ago
I wouldn't accept 1 million dollars to keep these idiots in office. Fuck them all.
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u/TR_abc_246 1d ago
The Donald’s never ending war with Iran just took our country’s dept to over 40 trillion!! Nobody seems to realize this or even care! Come on MAGA wake up! He is NOT making us great. You have been lied to over and over. He is doing the opposite!! MAGA, Please watch something other than Fox News!
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u/Alucard_Emordnilap 1d ago
Remember, he said if all Republicans win, which will not happen meaning he knows the debate over having the 5000 is a nonstarter, also even if it did work fully, which is not the goal, they would just lie and blame Democrats for it being blocked.
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u/homebrew_1 1d ago
The people that believe the 5k rebate checks vote republican. They don't stay home and complain that the alternative isn't perfect enough for their vote.
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u/uprightsalmon 1d ago
He’s just trying to support this ridiculous claim because it’s his job. You know he’s thinking ’god dammit again!’
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u/Electrical-Rub-9402 1d ago
The sad part is this is enough to likely keep him in power. I personally predicted he would do exactly this and here we are, lmfao.
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u/ravens_path 1d ago
Tarrifs bringing in $ for treasury but are actually paid by tax payers. lol. What a scam.
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u/TheHarlemHellfighter 1d ago
They’re just lying too much now.
Politicians in the past have been much more careful about this and not overselling yourself but these knobheads are just scammers and not politicians thru practice.
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u/RustyKn1ght 1d ago edited 1d ago
Didn't they run this whole "tariff money to every American!"-thing a year ago, and then it never came to ordinary Americans, but to corporations as a reparation for loss of income caused by the tariffs?
Edit: there was also supposed to be DOGE checks from all the saved, but that didn't happen either.
Edit 2: and also there was supposed to be direct rebates over ACA subsidies expiring paid annually to citizens’ Health Savings Accounts, but that didn't happen either.
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u/ThenConnection5394 1d ago
Lies like this should be jailable. It is simply unbelievable they are not!
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u/HTD-Vintage 1d ago
I mean... I would gladly take the 5k and tell them whatever they want to hear. Not gonna change my vote either way.
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u/-SideshowBlob- 1d ago
1.3 trillion is a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of debt the US actually has
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u/Winner-Living 1d ago
When would it be the moral thing to borrow money from your kids and spent it on yourself?
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u/Cycle_Spite_1026 1d ago
Creating wealth? Really?! It looks to me like the administration is taxing its citizens through tariffs causing all of us to pay more (inflation). Then when the tariff is determined illegal they rebate back to the corporations… what about the poor folk who paid the extra in? Oh! Is that what this vote bribe is supposed to do? Refund our money?
Anybody that votes for a republican in order to get $5000 is selling our country and our freedom far too cheaply…and I say that as a lifelong Republican. They have lost the narrative. And so have lost my vote.
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u/Non-Normal_Vectors 1d ago
So magnanimous of an elected official offering to share public funds with the public. Trickle down thievery.
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u/BoSoxFanInNJ 1d ago
Oh with the rebate money that went to companies or printing Monopoly money…? I’ll go ahead and hold my breath while Donald Trump promises to give out money again
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u/SusanLFlores 1d ago
Anyone who thinks that they’re going to get a big payday only need to look back the last couple of years and compare what was promised and whether those promises came to fruition.
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u/Fun_Performer_5170 1d ago
I‘d be ashamed to steal 5k plus 10k interests on them from my grandgrand kids
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u/chitoatx 1d ago
But we can’t afford social security, healthcare, food for the needy and out of control spending to a record deficit…
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u/Jagermeister4 1d ago
Even if we are buying the idea that they created "incredible wealth," that money came from regular people paying for the tariffs. They'd just be returning it. Except they're only going to return it if we vote Republican? What they going to do if we vote Democrat, burn the money? They're outright saying they are holding our money hostage.
Of course the truth is the rebates will never come, just like $5,000 DOGE dividend never came, $2,000 tariff rebate checks never came, and annual $1,000 to $1,500 rebates to health savings accounts never came. Another empty promise. The money is with the billionaire companies and they aren't refunding it to customers. What's worse is tariffs effectively created a nationwide price fix, and prices aren't coming down.
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u/GWPulham23 1d ago
The way the Trumpists try to attach a shred of sanity to his verbal vomit is embarrassing.
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u/NedRed77 1d ago
Even r/conservative are pissed.
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u/bradlees 1d ago
WE ALREADY PAID FOR THE TARIFFS!!!!!
That’s the “Art of The Deal” folks…. I take your money. Then give it back to you under “conditions” (that will never come to pass) and it is supposed to make you feel warm and fuzzy enough to keep falling for stuff
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u/Hour_Nefariousness17 1d ago
This is how Banana republics are born. Wake up MAGA, you're destroying America.
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u/FortheChava 1d ago
Don't worry the colored folks won't get any of that money including the pale skin fellows except the billionaire that need it
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u/unoriginalsin 1d ago
WE CREATED THE WEALTH!
THE TARIFFS WERE PAID BY US!
FUCK ALL THESE FASCIST FUCKS!
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u/JicamaCreative5614 1d ago
Can’t wait for them to inject $1.3 trillion into the money supply, cause a textbook economic blowout, and then blame Biden for the increased inflation
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u/Interesting-Dream863 1d ago
It's great really.
Either he will never pay because he never does or he'll pay but those dollars will become worthless by the minute due to rampant inflation.
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u/HistoryNerd101 1d ago
They are beyond help but Dems and many independents keep falling into the trap of using logic and reason vs these people. It is all government by Impressionism, not sound policy
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u/Juronell 1d ago
They've had to repay over $100 billion in tariff revenue collected, and they'll likely have to do so again.
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u/Strict_Ad4121 1d ago
key phrase right there. “ Beyond help”. Sadly I believe this is more truth than not…
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u/Elephunk05 1d ago
I expect that, if these checks are even real, that they will be given to Republican voters, and he would find some excuse to ostracize Democrats and people who didn't or can't vote.
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u/Jarnohams 1d ago
The funniest thing about the tariff rebates they were forced to repay is most of that money went to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick's hedge fund. Immediately after liberation day, he started buying up the rights to collect here at rebates for pennies on the dollar from foreign companies.. if they were deemed illegal.
So they knew that they would be damned illegal, let Nick brought up all the rights to collect rebates, and he made tens of billions of dollars while we all pay more for everything.
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u/Biteme75 1d ago
It doesn't matter; even if Republicans win the midterms those checks will never go out.
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u/Nethereal3D 1d ago
They can't even make up bullshit promises that they'll break, they just go straight for the bribe money.
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u/Funklestein 1d ago
It's been fanatsy accounting for decades after decades.
You can't even get half of the nation to care about all of the fraud that has been committed year after year so far. They just pass laws holding those who expose it guilty for noticing.
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u/mjayultra 1d ago
Why is the President only using this “incredible wealth” on his own vanity projects? It’s OUR money.
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u/Affectionate-Sun5863 1d ago
He's reached the point where he's like "They'll believe anything" And his devotees do ... they will fight logic with whatever illness they seem to have
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u/AstronomicalStress 1d ago
Haven’t we spent the last decade+ listening to these idiots claim that the Democrats are “bribing“ voters by… Providing public services?
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u/Andrew-Cohen 1d ago
Y’all already stole money from us (tariffs) and gave it to corporations. You’re not creating wealth, you’re making the rich even richer AS ALWAYS. Thanks republicans.