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u/BabyLegsOShanahan 14h ago

I hope your mom was okay knowing what we know about the dust.

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u/Emotional-Ad9114 14h ago

wait what do we know about the dust? (I’m not american)

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u/sexykristinith 14h ago

The dust caused cancer. Lots and lots of cancer.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 14h ago edited 14h ago

Cancer that killed a good majority of the firefighters that survived. Funding that was attempted to be cut by mitch McConnell and Mike Johnson only to be defended by, of all people, the amazing Jon Stewart

https://www.911memorial.org/connect/blog/op-ed-why-jon-stewart-fights-those-sick-and-dying-911-related-illnesses

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u/PrudentCarter 14h ago

I remember he fought pretty hard for it. He was seriously disappointed when they wouldn't even show up to the meeting for it.

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u/peachesfordinner BumBum Ouchie 14h ago

He did the impossible. He made them feel shame on their cold dead hearts for just a moment

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u/TemporaryMagician 13h ago

The more cynical take is that they never felt shame, but Jon's advocacy as a celebrity brought unwelcome publicity to their mistreatment of universally valorized heroes.

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u/peachesfordinner BumBum Ouchie 13h ago

Oh that certainly was the effective weapon he used

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u/SheDevilWithANewGig 1h ago

Yep. They calculated the optics and political impact only. They don’t give a fuck

u/wex118 50m ago

Right. If anything they just felt annoyance at having to yield on the issue.

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u/Supyloco 12h ago

That would still be shame.

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u/thedarkone47 7h ago

annoyance at getting caught isn't shame.

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u/Bun_Wrangler 11h ago

Because they don't care. It's a great tool to stir up memories to try and win some patriotic votes. Clearly from peoples experiences in this post. Its nothing more then a cynical tool, they could have passed a law that day. That would medically cover all the victims and first responders. They didn't, they were to focused on the opportunity to galvanize the public for never ending wars.

I say this in good faith and from personal experience. 9/11 is nothing more then a tool to them. It can garner votes, silence political opponents and always be used for some good press with a hollow ceremony.

Trump has Howard Ludnick(how ever you spell his last name) in his cabinet. His brother died in 9/11 as their company was in one of the towers. He played a real good sob story, made it seem like he cared and helped setup a fund to support the families of the deceased. The loophole, was that there wasn't a limit on the amount that could be paid out. He took the whole think, I can't remember the exact number, but it was more then a couple million. So that's who we have in government. People who have no problem using 9/11 for personal gain.

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u/Guiano 14h ago

I remember this story, and it’s not like I’m ignorant of the state of US politics but man. It’s always the ones who are supposedly full of patriotism who over and over take action against the needs of those that fought and gave the ultimate sacrifice for this country. And their supporters don’t bat an eye.

I don’t fucking get it.

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u/Winter_Preference287 14h ago

You get it, it's just hard to accept there are demons who act like this for political points and call themselves patriots. Conservatives are very good at getting people focused on one issue while the rob you on 5 others. Just like a bunch of pick pockets, except their actions kill millions and as long as those super PAC donations keep coming, they couldn't care less.

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u/hallucinating 14h ago

I wonder what it's like inside their heads. They can't all be psychopaths so why do they have so little empathy 🤔

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u/Winter_Preference287 13h ago

Being a lap dog to the upper class has its perks. They get to sell out 300 million people while their masters flood the country with social media and fake news to keep us distracted in a culture war while they speed run robotics so we're not needed

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u/saltycouchpotato 13h ago

At least 1% of the population has psychopathic traits so I can assure you, there are many psychopaths in the halls of power and the heads of state. But remember, not all psychopaths enact harm, especially to this degree. We are dealing with psychopaths who are gleefully harming others. We have sadists, narcissists, and machiavellian dark triad mfers on our hands.

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u/Redditsucks547 11h ago

I can answer this. It’s very very intoxicating to be powerful and rich. That’s why they hold on for so long.

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME 3h ago

why not? why can't they be?

do you not have an understanding of numbers or math?

there are tens of millions of sociopaths and psychopaths in this country, alone, based on %s and how common those conditions are. and that's IGNORING people who have little to no empathy for other reasons, which there are many

why is it so hard to believe that people flock to jobs that reward their worst attributes. it works for the cops and it sure as fuck works for republican politicians and influencers and shit.

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u/hallucinating 3h ago

Do you not know how to have a civil discussion?

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME 2h ago

i can't, but i'm sick and tired of people seeing the evidence of horrific people with no morals and no conscience destroying the world around them, and shrug their shoulders in disbelief, saying "well, surely some of them are fine people! i'm sure any day now one of them will come around and all of this will be fixed and ok! they just need to look inside their hearts!!"

civility in the face of willful ignorance has gotten us where we are today

civility in the face of the lies of sociopaths got us to trump, and a nation afraid of everything, always (especially nothing). instead of uniting and becoming better, together, we let a group of the worst people in this nation's history destroy us from the inside, while we sat and waited, confident that, one day, all of those good people will just decide to take a stand. cause surely, hundreds-to-thousands of people can't be sociopaths in a nation of 300million where the incidence of sociopathy is upwards of 4% (which means more than 12 million people), and roughly 1 out of every 20 people you meet.

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u/hallucinating 1h ago

Not even remotely what I said. I'm also not from the US. And the prevalent statistics for psychopaths in the US is 1 in 100 people. Perhaps the whole Republican party is full of them. I was merely wondering how these people can behave in such an awful way and show no empathy as, statistically, it's unlikely every single one is a psychopath but perhaps they are. Not sure why that triggered you.

u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME 47m ago

the 4% is global incidence of sociopathy among the general population, so wherever you are, it's still relevant.

also this is a comic about america and an american tragedy, and someone was talking about american politicians that you commented on and asked a question about. so i don't really care if yo're not from the US.

i am also talking about sociopaths, not just psychopaths. sociopaths are the ones that have no empathy. psychopaths are the crazier ones who have more issues than just a lack of empathy.

what triggered me is "they couldn't all be psychopaths"

yes. yes they could be.

1 in 100 people in the US would still be over 3 million people.

that's A LOT OF PEOPLE.

u/hallucinating 44m ago

Ok, so maybe they could be. What exactly are you getting arsey about? I'm hardly defending these wankers.

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u/Guiano 12h ago

I do, there are just those rare moments where the real weight of how broken it all is hits me in a way it usually doesn’t, and this was one of those times.

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u/Tru3insanity 11h ago

Unfortunately patriotism is often just another kind of virtue theater. Some people wanna feel like the heroes without ever actually lifting a finger to help someone.

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u/patsully98 13h ago

It would be universally popular and so easy to just do the right thing here, but it just never crosses the minds of some people we elect to represent us.

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u/Shantotto11 14h ago

*Jon Stewart

The one with the H in his name is the Green Lantern.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 14h ago

Awwww beans you're right lemme fix that

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u/Space_Vaquero73 14h ago

Well they are both superhereos so it's understandable.

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u/Shantotto11 14h ago

The most valid takeaway.

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u/CrazyHorseWakaWaka 13h ago

Of all the celebrities, this is the one guy I respect. He fought for those that those in power decided were inconveniences to be swept aside and forgotten.

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u/SpotweldPro1300 13h ago

If any Stewart should get a Green Lantern ring, it's Jon.

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u/No_Recognition_3729 12h ago

Jon Stewart is better than a superhero. He advocates for actual change rather than maintaining the status quo.

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u/drsideburns 13h ago

"awwww beans" lol i'm gonna steal that man. that's adorable.

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u/DarkMelody42 13h ago

I read this comment in the barbarians voice. Thank you for this

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 13h ago

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u/Emotional-Ad9114 14h ago

was not expecting this thread to have a Green Lantern reference 😭

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u/Shantotto11 14h ago

I was. Jon Stewart is probably known second most for his advocacy for 9/11 survivors and first responders.

It took me years to figure out how to properly spell both of the their names correctly. I’ve been spelling GL’s name as “John Stuart” for longer than I care to admit.

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u/OriginalDavid 14h ago

J'hon

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u/Shantotto11 13h ago

No, that’s the detective from Mars. /s

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u/TheBKnight3 12h ago

From "Comedy Channel"

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 14h ago

Our Jon is more deserving of the ring.

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u/VengeanceKnight 14h ago

DC’s John would agree.

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u/BadmiralHarryKim 14h ago

Mitch McConnell, Senator from Kentucky celebrated as coal country, took time out from trying to cut health funding for Black Lung, the most well known coal miner's disease, to also try and cut funding for 9/11 related respiratory care?

Hard to believe he took his eye off the ball screwing over coal miners just to stick it too 9/11 rescuer toos. Unless some of them were also coal miners?

Anyway, fuck that guy.

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u/Broke-Down-Toad 12h ago

Don't forget all the fighting that had to be done to get veterans who were exposed to burn pits covered by the VA

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u/mittenknittin 13h ago

Mike Rogers, who is trying to smear Abdul El-Sayed about 9/11 because he's Muslim, voted twice to cut funding for first responders

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u/patsully98 13h ago

Rogers is not exactly a Rhodes Scholar. El-Sayed is literally a Rhodes Scholar!

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u/Annalog 13h ago

I wish someone with the same convictions, charisma, moral compass, and ferocity for justice as Jon would run for president. I realize Jon would never do it. We also don’t need more celebs doing it but damn I’d be lying if I hadn’t thought about it

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u/_JustCallMeBen_ 8h ago

The moral failure of the entire political class is so absolute when a fucking comedian is the one that finally gets things done for firefighters that gave up their health to help others.