r/SipsTea • u/sco-go • 13h ago
Wait a damn minute! Bad time for a how-to YouTube video.
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u/Lowenfall 13h ago
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u/Nntropy 13h ago
Dr. Nick really did have to check a video in one episode.
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u/depp-fsrv 12h ago
Simpsons predicted another one
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u/Fluffy-Future-4674 11h ago
I'm watching old episodes of the Simpsons now and they predicted the pandemic!!!
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u/Nntropy 11h ago
Red Letter Media did a video about several aspects of the episode that were prophetic.
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u/Eastern-Air-5091 11h ago
Remember if you’re not sure about something just rub it against a piece of paper! If the paper turns clear it’s your window to weight gain!
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u/juzz88 13h ago
They google shit all the time. Good. Doesn't hurt to double check.
I'm sure they're looking at PubMed and not reading Reddit for medical advice.
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u/sadi89 12h ago
not a doctor, but work in healthcare. I don’t look at Reddit for professional medical advice BUT I do subscribe to several subs for chronic and complex health conditions. It’s really great for hearing what it’s like to live with a condition and help understand the challenges people face when managing their health
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u/Silent_Equivalent965 11h ago
This is a beautiful idea
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u/Upstairs-Extension-9 10h ago
Yeah I’m in r/visualsnow but not a doctor, I have it although like most of Reddit it’s heavy on the memes.
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u/Difficult_Cake_451 10h ago
…I want you to know that I have several conditions that are “invisible” and this comment made me burst into tears.
Thank you for seeing us.
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u/Thereisnosaurus 10h ago
Also not a doctor, but it is not uncommon for specialists to lurk on lived experience forums within their area of speciality. Sometimes it's unempathic curiosity, but there's plenty of specialists who get into a field because they really give a shit about that part of health and have a very patient-centered worldview.
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u/Difficult_Cake_451 10h ago
I wish I had this experience. The doctors, while helping minimally, seem super indifferent most of the time :(
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u/Gold_Blacksmith_9821 10h ago
Non-healthcare workers have no idea how much emotional energy goes into treating and caring for patients. It seriously takes a toll on our mental health. So next time you think “oh the ‘your choice of provider’ is emotionally detached,” realise there’s probably a very good reason for it.
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u/Difficult_Cake_451 10h ago
I can understand that, but I do not appreciate being treated like my issues aren’t really a concern/they don’t want to actually figure something out/they label me as having a condition without actually doing any digging or tests. There’s a difference between emotionally detached and just not caring.
One of my conditions is been untreated for 3 years because they keep misdiagnosing it as “just anxiety” :( only 2 of my doctors are convinced it is NOT anxiety based on my symptoms. One of them is a psychiatrist, and the other is my migraine specialist. I’m thankful for them, at least.
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u/TheLongBlueFace 10h ago
I have interstitial cystitis, and several other illnesses, and have legitimately learned so much medical info from redditors while doctors I see are no real help.
It's not like I see a claim on reddit and assume it's true. It just let's me learn about unknown unknowns, then I can go read medical papers about it. I've easily read over 100 medical papers at this point, no idea how many but without redditors I would only know a fraction of what I know now
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u/Away-Boysenberry-584 10h ago
I’m a medical provider in a specialty. When patients have medical condition that uncommon that isn’t in my specialty, I like for them to explain it to me. I’ve learned so much from my patients. Mostly cancers or autoimmune conditions.
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u/LikeIsaidItsNothing 3h ago
where is this magic place that doctors like you exist? my life has been ruined by a lack of trying or caring. i don't know how to cope with the depression over it.
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u/MissBandersnatch2U 10h ago
Have you ever checked out the site Patients Like Me?
eta you can interact with other people with your same condition and possibly get some info
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u/JulienBrightside 7h ago
A doctor will have to know about many different sicknesses.
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u/shoeless_doh 10h ago
I hope you don't join any subs about lupus. Because it's never lupus
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u/P-Griffin-DO 11h ago
Am a doctor and also google shit all the time, mostly things that I’m 90 percent sure about and wanna make sure I’m 100 percent sure about
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u/AngryCrustation 11h ago edited 10h ago
When I was in school for engineering I was flat out told that after graduation I needed to have all of these equations written on a clip board I carried around so that I would never get them wrong. Then I was told that would be cheating in school and that I had to memorize them.
The only way to never have a mathematical error is to use a calculator for even basic addition and to plug it into an equation that is directly in front of your face.
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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 10h ago
"Never commit to memory, that which can be looked up in a book."
–Albert Einstein (popular paraphrase)
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u/Suojelusperkele 8h ago
Ah wow.
Wise words tbh.
I'm a nurse and I often tell my students when they're doing their working practices that it's better to know where to find the info you need rather than trying to memorize it.
The databases we often use get updated rather frequently.
And being familiar with the layout of these few databases is going to help you a lot.
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u/juzz88 11h ago
Makes complete sense. I'm in finance and I do the same thing.
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u/permalink_save 10h ago
Yeah IDK why this is such a problem. I work in tech and google things anyone should be certain about just to make sure I'm not missing something or going too autopilot. It never hurts to look something up to prepare.
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u/Brvcx 10h ago
I'm a bicycle mechanic and YouTube shit at times. Mostly how different brakes are bled, because some types have really effing ridiculously elaborate procedures compared to others. You want your professional to do things correctly, don't you? Let them use this thing called "the internet" to make sure they give you what you need and/or paying them for.
I want my doctor to make sure they're 100% about something rather than 90% sure. It's my (or my son's) health we're talking about and there's so much to know and so much that changes over time (new medicine, new information, better treatments). I want my doctor to want to learn what's best for me.
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u/NoChanceRight 11h ago
A part of health education is knowing to know which sources can be used in learning. You will always need to learn and strive to learn. For instance, i regurarly use Youtube or other credible sources because i do some procedures so rarely i tend to forget part of the procedure.
It is said that when you stop learning in this type of work you should quit.
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u/taxable_income 8h ago edited 8h ago
A friend of mine is a senior doctor, and she tells me that while she is more experienced, her younger colleagues are more knowledgeable on the state of the art because they were more recently educated. So she would often ask their opinions before making a decision on a complex case.
I think it's a mark of a true professional to have that humility.
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u/Itchy_Feedback_7625 10h ago
My dad has cancer and had fluid in his abdominal cavity, and needed the drain replaced. His tiny little village hospital had no idea how to do it and the nurses googled it, and I helped with what I knew about it.
We were so glad they did - it was such a relief for him and saved us a 3 hour car ride to the city when he was already in massive discomfort.
When you look at the human body and how complicated it is, it’s insane - no one human could possibly know everything about everything. They know a lot, but medical staff who admit they don’t know directly to you and look things up or trying to find someone who does know is worth GOLD.
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u/PoopyButt28000 5h ago
I also have to imagine that they know enough of the stuff surrounding it that if they watch a video just seeing parts of it done is enough for it all to kind of click. Obviously if we watched we probably couldn't replicate it fully but when you already know a lot of what you're watching just seeing those small missing parts is enough.
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u/waxingtheworld 10h ago edited 10h ago
Both mine and my son's GP does it in front of us. Son's GP makes a point of saying her source, so in case we Google something we know which sites she would actually listen to
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u/Fit-Avocado-1646 8h ago
There's a website called up to date. "UpToDate"
Is basically doctor Wikipedia.
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u/JohnnyStarboard 10h ago
Ever seen a doctor office office? Books out the wazoo. I see nothing wrong here.
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u/Muted_Dinner_1021 10h ago
I rather have a doctor that is second guessing themselves and looking up information rather than having a doctor that think he/she knows everything. One doctor can't possibly know everything there is about everything related to medicine, if you think that you are delusional.
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u/get_it_together1 10h ago
You can find legit surgical training videos on YouTube.
Like this, may be nsfw if you don’t work in healthcare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuIN3BfPaHo
My coworkers watch videos like this all the time.
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u/dannocaster 10h ago
The most impressive doctor I ever saw (I see lots of doctors for.. reasons) impressed me by the speed she could type into Google. It was like a jet engine spooling, no 2 finger nonsense.
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u/Difficult-Way-9563 13h ago
Don’t have to remember tons of medical, pharm and procedural things. Even the best don’t remember all of them and some meds refreshers.
Lots of doctors look up stuff right before or when they step out for a few minutes and come back but you don’t know it.
If that’s the only red flag, it’s not remarkable.
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u/Linguetto 2h ago
It’s not a red flag at all. It’s a sign of a good doctor. The issue is, you gotta be a little more discrete.
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u/waxess 13h ago
I'm a doctor and by all accounts, a pretty good one. I look stuff up all the time. Good luck if you get the doctor who doesn't.
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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost 12h ago
My NFL quarterback is on the sideline during the game watching replays of himself just throwing the ball, did he forget how to throw the ball? - Reddit probably
No one gets good and then just stops reviewing the process. It’s a lot of work to stay game ready. Same thing for doctors and surgeons, we are constantly reviewing and learning so when it’s game time we’re giving you our best.
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u/prince_falafel 12h ago
There are 100% people on this site that think that about QBs lol such trash takes everywhere
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u/-Fergalicious- 2h ago
2 of the best ever, Brees and Brady, did it after every set of downs without fail. Crazy that people would think that lol
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u/rustyroo2021 12h ago edited 1h ago
I've had a hell of a time with a blood disorder and went to get a second opinion. I was thrilled when my doctor left me for like 45 mins to go do some research and came back with a plan that's actually working right now! I could care less if he watched a YouTube video or read it in a book. Just glad he did it 🤷♀️
Edit: Thanks the for award 😉
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u/cjsv7657 10h ago
My doctor just says "lets look it up" and pulls out his phone. He has access to a couple websites that are login and only accessible to medical professionals. The printout from that website was a hell of a lot easier than me trying to parse through 15,000 words of AI bullshit websites and reddit posts before I got to real information.
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u/Addicted_to_Nature 11h ago
Lol I just got diagnosed with polycythemia vera last year and made an appointment with my GP to make sure she was on board with everything I learned from the oncologist/hemotologist.
Was in the room while she was looking it up more to make sure none of the meds she was prescribing me for other things was going to be an issue. She basically said "sorry this isn't one of the regular diagnoses I come across often and want to make sure everything I'm doing goes along with what your hemotologist is doing". Because yeah... Rare blood disorder isn't the same as the colds/flus/rashes she sees on a daily basis. She knows I work in the medical field and knows me well enough that she didn't have to leave the room for it 😅 definitely would rather her do some educated googling than just be like "yeah I have everything about the rare blood disorder out of my speciality completely memorized and my brain thinks you'll be fine"
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u/Patient-Doughnut7266 11h ago
I have ITP and just got discharged from the hospital I went in with a count of 1,000 platelets which is very bad considering you should have at least 150,000. I couldn't go to the oncology/ hematology floor as I've got covid. So they put me on the respiratory floor even though I had no actual respiratory issues aside from a runny nose. The nurses were a bit confused but understood they couldn't risk exposing the people with cancer to my germs. They weren't thrilled at the prospect of doing transfusions 😬
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u/Patient-Doughnut7266 11h ago
Fellow blood disease haver, when I have to see a provider who isn't as familiar with the disease as a hematologist I'm glad when they look things up and ask questions. It means they actually care enough to make sure they don't do something that could harm me.
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u/Loud-Bee6673 11h ago
Exactly. The standard of care is not a static line - it is moving ALL THE TIME! If I don’t read articles and listen to lectures/podcasts I would still be practicing the medicine I learned in med school. 18 years ago.
As an ER doc, we are sometimes in a position to be doing something that we have never done. Some procedures are seen so rarely, but when they do show up, we have to do them.
A couple examples …..
(and trigger warning as these can be considered disturbing ……)
Lateral canthotomy - someone has an injury that causes an expanding pool of blood behind the eye. This is putting pressure pushing it out of the socket. If it continues unchecked, it will squish like a grape. We have to cut the tendons surrounding the outside of the eye to relieve the pressure. I’ve never done one, just simulation.
Pericardial drain - the sac that surrounds and normally lies flat around the heart becomes filled with blood. The squeezes the heart and makes it ineffective. Eventually it will cause tamponade and death. This ultimately needs a heart surgeon, but to get them that far we may need to thread a catheter between or under the ribs inside that sac, and use it to drain fluid. I have done this twice and my butt cheeks were clamped the entire time.
Perimortem C section - if a pregnant patient is coding, the treatment for the mother AND the fetus is a crash C-section. We are not OBs and it is not pretty. I have never done this and I pray to god I never do. But I watch videos about if from time to time so I can if I need to.
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u/thehenryguy1 11h ago
Our ICU section chief will watch videos for uncommon procedures right before he does them because of all the reasons you stated.
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u/pilot3033 10h ago
Perimortem C section - if a pregnant patient is coding, the treatment for the mother AND the fetus is a crash C-section. We are not OBs and it is not pretty. I have never done this and I pray to god I never do. But I watch videos about if from time to time so I can if I need to.
There's one of these on The Pitt in season 2 and yeah, I hope you never have to, either.
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u/MaxShea 12h ago
Also pediatric icu doc and a pretty darn good one too. I check, recheck and check again with as many sources before I do or teach.
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u/P0ster_Nutbag 12h ago
I remember a similar video to this that showed a doctor looking up how likely coyotes were to carry rabies in their particular area.
I know doctors are expected to know a lot, but you can’t expect them to be experts in local wildlife ecology on top of medicine. This one knew that the risks of this thing vary from area to area, and that it would be wise to look it up.
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u/3rd-party-intervener 12h ago
My pcp always has something called like “uptodate” open on his computer
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u/Virtual-Jelly-3609 12h ago
This^
A provider that can admit when they don’t know something, or doublechecks something—— Is the one you want.Of course let them demonstrate competence when it matters the most. It may also be a resident?
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u/SirNastyPants 8h ago
As a software engineer, any highly skilled profession where new research and new techniques and technologies are moving fast is like this.
Knowing what you don’t know and knowing how to find the information so you can learn what you need is like, half the job.
I’m not a medical professional, but I wouldn’t expect a physician to know absolutely everything there is to know about all of medical science in the same way I wouldn’t expect my coworkers to know everything there is to know about computer science.
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u/Affectionate_Cry_838 12h ago
right, like oh this procedure I haven't had to do in almost a year, let me activate my perfect recall, no need for a quick reminder of anything.
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u/Shrimply-r1 12h ago
Seriously, not sure what this is trying to say/prove? Are people really that stupid they think their doctors know 100% of everything ever? Its called a medical PRACTICE for a reason...
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 11h ago
Would these people also be pissed if he looked up something he forgot in a medical textbook or on the internet? You realize most doctors don't have total recall right?
Wait till they find out how the IT guy fixes their computer.
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u/pre_nerf_infestor 10h ago
As a fellow doc...I just go out the room to look stuff up lol. Perception is everything.
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u/AmericanComplaint 12h ago
I’d rather my doc just wing it, so they don’t look dumb.
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u/opal-sea-44 12h ago
I was thinking that it’s not necessarily a bad thing! I’m sure you and other doctors need to re-fresh yourself on topics at times, as well all do!
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u/Sensitive_Cup4015 11h ago
But surely there is like a curated repository for this kind of thing and not just Youtube I'd think?
"Sup y'all it's Open Heart Surgery Steve here back with another video, today we're putting a stent in, but before we get to that, don't forget to SMASH the like button, OBLITERATE the subscribe button and ring the BLEEP out of that bell!"
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u/Unusual_Painting8764 13h ago
Would rather them confirm what they think they know than to just start cutting on me guessing LOL
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u/Smooth_Marsupial_262 13h ago
As an electrician I YouTube stuff sometimes. It’s not like I have no idea what to do. It’s just I work in a broad field and occasionally YouTube can help with a clarifying detail or two on some niche work I don’t do all the time. It’s not that egregious imo.
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u/DrDipstick89 12h ago
Same as a mechanic. To help with those very particular spots
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u/mavrick116 11h ago
I did the same as a mechanic, and one thing to consider is that someone trained in the field can usually spot bullshit. Sometimes id have to look around for a while and differentiate crazy shit from actual useful information.
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u/Electrical-Bedroom99 12h ago
I worked as a residential electrician a long time ago. I was caught reading instructions for how to assemble a chandelier once. The home owner was upset for some reason, lol.
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u/jayc428 12h ago
lol same. I was charging starting up a rooftop unit. I’m certified by the manufacturer and this job had a commissioning agent as part of everything. I was reading the manual for it and the guy was such an asshole about it calling up the client. He handed me the phone and the client is like the CA is saying you don’t know what you’re doing. I’m like I do know what I’m doing, sometimes they changed the passcode or a sequence on the units and I was double checking, since they literally tell you in training always read the manual as minor things change from year to year in the designs.
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u/Moon_and_Sky 12h ago
I repair appliances. Ive watched so many tear down videos. These manufacturers make this shit harder and harder to take apart every new version.
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u/Disastrous-Cream730 12h ago
I am a doctor and I feel like I’m the same as a mechanic
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u/omgbenji21 13h ago
Correct. It’s really not uncommon. Anesthesiologists do it all the time to learn a block they haven’t seen since school. Sometimes a doc needs a little refresher
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u/ConcentrateDirect523 12h ago
Or support for products/devices/tools that the manufacturer or a healthcare organization publishes on YouTube. Faster than calling their 1800 number and honestly it's probably more valuable too
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u/Hexent_Armana 12h ago
Yea. The only thing we can really fault her doctor for is doing it in front of her patient.
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u/HelenKellersAirpodz 12h ago
Tbh the lack of ability to do this just meant more errors in the past. On the EMS side, we’re more encouraged to double-check protocols than in past practice in what’s called the “culture of safety.”
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u/Faceofferrus 12h ago
I'm with you. I dislike this assumption that double checking something is a sign of incompetence when we have easy access to trusted sources
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u/9447044 13h ago
Between youtube, me and the medical professional. I bet i can pull a lawsuit out of this
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u/Fat-lard246 13h ago
do they teach you guys to do lawsuits at school? it's the first thing commented everywhere these days
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u/flopisit32 13h ago
American get rich quick schemes.
In Europe, we have to actually go to 4 years of university and get a job.
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u/endless-appetight 13h ago
We tried that, but then we just started talking about how great it would be to get hit by on-campus transportation so we could sue
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u/PhthaloVonLangborste 13h ago
The job of lawsuit? 4 years in the US just equates to a lifetime of debt unless you do 4 more years and practically work for free another 2. There are a some medical professions that are less, but often highly competitive.
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u/airboRN_82 13h ago
You wouldnt be able to. Its common enough (and even protocol at some hospitals) to fall within standard practice. Plus you need actual harm to occur to sue.
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u/Generoh 13h ago
Can you sue? Yes. Can you win? Unlikely unless there are damages
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u/im2cool4ppl 13h ago
say you’re American without saying you’re American
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u/LetReasonRing 12h ago
Yeah, my last doctor would pull out Google when I had a question she didn't know the answer to off the top of her head and it made me trust her more.
Noone can know everything and I'd prefer someone willing to look it up over someone who just acts like they know because of their ego.
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u/frankydie69 11h ago
The amount of googling that happens in the medical field will surprise only dummies.
I say that because as a human being I forget things and need refreshers. Medical professionals are human beings too.
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u/NobodyLikedThat1 13h ago
Would rather they did that a little prior to about to step into the operating room. Even just from a professionalism standard you have to admit the optics look terrible
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u/North-Airline2676 13h ago
Just the modern way to do it. In the past they would consult their medical journals. No issues here and its good your doctor is getting more info.
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u/weedpornography 13h ago
Very likely that its the hospital's own video too lol
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u/lolimazn 13h ago
Even if it isn’t, many institutions post videos like this. It’s the internet lol. The era of information and ease of accessibility is glorious. At least it isn’t a TikTok lmaooo.
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u/Cum_on_doorknob 12h ago
Doctor here. It’s not, lol. But we can tell which YouTube videos are legit, it’s a sixth sense from the years of studying.
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u/dropdeadred 13h ago
Ive been a nurse for 18+ years and when I had to do an abdominal pressure reading and hadn’t done one in years, I looked it up! You can’t remember everything, damn. I’d rather look at a video and be 100% sure than pretty sure and potentially mess something up
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u/Helios4242 12h ago
Knowing that you need to know is a skill and gets over the dunning-kruger effect.
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u/dropdeadred 12h ago
I work CVICU now and I’m constantly double-checking. Those super confident nurses always make me nervous! I’m on the other side right now because I’m super pregnant and keep getting admitted for stuff and I love it when I hear my nurses and doctors talking stuff out loud and asking questions and double checking with each other.
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u/Helios4242 12h ago
especially great, because so much of the knowledge there is "was not tested in pregnant people" so there are huge gaps.
"Please talk with your healthcare professional if you are pregnant or breastfeeding" at this point they know about as much as you because clinical trials don't touch anyone pregnant or breastfeeding.
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u/everyones_hiro 12h ago
I would double check for everything as a nurse, though I would usually hide in the supply room so I didnt inspire fear in my patients.
Some procedures just aren't particularly common, so even though you learned it in school or do it professionally it could possibly be months between doing it so you just want to be 200% when you're doing it on a person. Sometimes you've done it a million times but the stock room hands you a different brand of kit and you don't want to be reading the instructions while the patient is spread eagle or something.
Just because a baker has been baking bread for 40 years doesnt mean they dont want to glance at a recipe before they make cookies.
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u/everyones_hiro 12h ago
When I was a kid, before youtube existed (Gasp I know!) I had a weird rash so my mom took me to the pediatrician. It was a pretty extensive full body rash and the Dr gasped when she saw it. I guess maybe she was just expecting a kid with common hives or something but she leaned in and immediately started mumbling under her breath everything it wasn't. It wasn't chicken pox or dermatitis, or folliculitis, was it full body ringworm??? She asked my mom a million questions and told us to wait for a minute. We waited in the office for probably like 25 minutes and my mom was panicking thinking she was calling infectious disease or it was something VERY serious. The Doctor then rushes in with a HUGE text book. Like a 6 inch thick tome. She's struggling to carry them but she props one open using all her strength and points at a part of the page saying Pityriasis Rosea. She was like "ITS THIS!" very excitedly. All three of us sat there and read about it. It fit my symptoms exactly.
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u/robot_ankles 13h ago
"...but before you close up with a butterfly suture, be sure to LikE and suBscRibE! It only takes a second and it really helps my channel."
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u/tacorunnr 13h ago
Doctors and nurses look stuff up all the time. You think they remember every damn thing off the top of their head? Sometimes they need a refresher. This is way more common you think. And lots of places have a hospital only playlist with videos from other verified doctors. Theyre not watching some randos video. Before video they'd refer to medical books. But cant always have a book on hand. Youtube you can watch anywhere. Much denser form of info. All medical books combined into 1 and fits in your pocket.
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u/elevenminutesago 13h ago
Dental assistant checking in to say it happens in the dental office, too. Most recently our lab tech youtube'd how to change one shade of a crown to a very specific shade.
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u/Lone_Vagrant 12h ago
We would not bat an eye if they were consulting a big medical book for stuff. Yet chances are those books are out of date. No institution keep buying the lastest edition of all the books they have. Yet people throw a stink when doctors look for resources online that wiuld be more likely to be up to date. Might be videos from a hospital channel so it might be legit.
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u/Spookywhitedot 13h ago
Genuinely would not concern me at all.
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u/Helpful_Avocado6900 13h ago
at least the doctor is researching instead of going blind. they are justhumans after all andcan store all the medical knowledge in their brain
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 11h ago
"I'm pretty sure" is not something you want a doctor to be thinking. "I double checked and now I'm sure" 100% is what you want them to be thinking
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u/revenge_burner 13h ago
This isn't new. They used to pull out actual books. At least the YouTube procedure give visual aids.
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u/flyforpennies 6h ago
Did she get in trouble for filming? Most hospitals outright ban video and photography.
Also your doctor looking something up to double check something is normal and preferred over someone who is confidently wrong
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u/MatchlessGore 6h ago
Exactly this! Too many times they think they know and are wrong, but this is actually a good doctor who knows they don't and is willing to learn.
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u/rhabby8 13h ago
This is probably not what is happening. Could be any YouTube video for any reason.
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u/Naaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh 13h ago
But we need to unconditionally believe everything we read on the internet. Especially if it’s just a headline.
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u/Either_Following342 13h ago
It also looks like there is someone standing behind her, which could be a med student. She might be showing the student a video of the procedure to give them an idea of what's going to happen, which is something preceptors have done for me as well.
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u/Luikenfin 13h ago
What do you think Greys Anatomy(the books) is? Medical professionals cannot have every single treatment for every single disease filed away in their head. They have the most common of course, but not every single one. So yeah they'll look up treatment for something they haven't encountered since school or very rarely just to refresh themselves. Honestly far better than a medical professional thinking they know everything and just winging it.
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u/airboRN_82 13h ago
ICU nurse-
Its not bad to brush up on some small details you may have forgotten before a procedure. Theres things ive done a thousand times but if its been a couple months I'll still skim over a video or other instruction to make sure I didnt forget something.
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u/s0ul_invictus 12h ago
you keep doing that, don't let these people get you down, they're just bored and playing around, it means nothing. double check it every chance you get.
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u/frejas-rain 12h ago
And I thank you for doing so. Having been in the ICU . . . Your taking a minute to review a procedure could damn well save my life. Ineffable thanks. May your pillow be perfect.
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u/liftingshitposts 13h ago
Got damn she looks like a nightmare patient.
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u/UnableToParallelPark 13h ago edited 33m ago
She probably knows more than the nurses and doctors too. Questions everything etc.
Edit: I'm not agreeing with the person, more pointing out how patients think they know more than medical professionals.
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u/visacha13 12h ago
Some of you people are morons. You think because she is looking up stuff on the YouTube it's bad? Sometimes we don't do certain procedures regularly, or sometimes we wanna confirm what we are looking at with videos over images. There are lots of reasons YouTube is great. As an anesthesiologist, some of my resources have videos on YouTube to show up nerve blocks that we may be rusty at and wanna confirm the right planes for local, or awake intubation techniques that may not do regularly. I've seen surgeons be told how to do surgery by reps cause they are unfamiliar of the equipment they are using on people. So again, if you have a problem with someone doing this, you are a fking idiot
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u/SameSoulNewSuit 9h ago
I’m just a random guy but to me it’s like I’d rather see a doctor searching and trying to learn than a doctor who assumes they always know and is arrogant. The idea of a doctor needing to YouTube what to do like how I would YouTube how to replace an alternator when I have zero car knowledge is funny but again I have zero car knowledge where a doctor already has anatomical knowledge so it’s just common sense to me that a doctor might need to brush up or might need to learn something in the moment and YouTube is a great resource for that in all kinds of fields. This is just dumb lol
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u/The--Incident 13h ago
People have wild expectations for doctors.
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u/kindredisthicc 9h ago
Medical shows have done harm in this regard since they make it appear like they should know what your issue is in half a minute aprox
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u/allquckedup 12h ago
Ok. You do realize that tons of schools and medical professionals put their procedure on YouTube so that other physicians can learn or refresh. This doctor is basically reviewing the process so they can make sure the best outcome can be had. This is the modern day equivalent of reviewing it in the textbook.
Don't make a nothing burger more than it is.
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u/CanuckyBender 13h ago
Worked in the OR for over 15 years. I'd rather a surgeon YouTube a procedure than go in blind.
Ignorance is not an attribute when people's lives are at stake.
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u/codecrodie 13h ago
Im going to let you in on a secret: every MD trained in the last 10 years has reviewed youtube prior to doing a new procedure or using a new piece of equipmentv (usually this). It looks bad because this is an ED and it's in the open.
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u/XzkSo 2h ago
Actually this is not bad. Knowing that you don't know everything is a virtue.
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u/TraditionPhysical603 13h ago
Same as a mechanic watching a video on how to fix your car.
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u/BanditSL99 13h ago
Hell yea. Im a farm mechanic and still look up stuff when I need to. I'd rather confirm a fix before I break something.
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u/uncultured_swine2099 13h ago
Honestly id rather they do it if they cant remember something from med school a billion years ago than to just guess.
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u/ola-yori 11h ago
This is why I can’t wait to get out of medicine. You work your ass off to become a doctor only to spend your work days getting yelled at by patients who blame you for our horrible medical system and all of a sudden you’re in a viral online video for doing what is best for your patient or the learner you have tagging along that day. It’s exhausting
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u/lujenchia 13h ago
In one of my past jobs, my superior would get angry if we couldn't recall the numbers off the top of our heads. Even fired one person who opened up the sheets to double-check before answering. After that, we just gave him approximations we made up on the fly.
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u/InimitableMe 12h ago
In nursing school we discussed safety measures like timeouts and checklists. Specifically how assuming that you remember everything correctly is detrimental at every level of expertise, according to research.
A refresher on any level of care is a good thing.
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u/PsychologicalTwo505 12h ago
I mean they know how to do it but it’s like a recipe you haven’t made in 2 months wouldn’t you re-read the recipe just to be sure?
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u/Quarterinchribeye 2h ago
Don’t care if this is a joke or satire. This is the type of shit that got RFK into the position he is in because people don’t trust science.
The doctor has skills to apply and recheck techniques they may not have practiced in a bit. This is a good thing.
Fuck the OP.
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u/Gwyllithar 13h ago
i dont see the issue.
The knowledge you want is the diagnosis, and ability to perform the treatment, before we had video guides, doctors would have gone and looked it up in a book or journal if they needed a reminder.
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u/dfshectic4 13h ago
My doctor fully googled what to look for on my blood test and in the moment I was weirded out. When I got back in the car and thought about it, I realized how many patients they must see who all have different things wrong with them. They can't be expected to remember all of that. They are still just people.
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u/FrontLifeguard1962 13h ago
Doc here, we have peer-reviewed and vetted medical databases, the use of which requires you to be a licensed physician and pay for access. We don't use Google and ChatGPT to put together a treatment plan.
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u/SaltyOctopusTears 11h ago
I have a rare disease. Doctors constantly look shit up right in front of me. I’m glad they are trying to figure out what the fuck is wrong with me and how to treat it. I’m glad they get more familiar with what I’m dealing with and how it affects life.
How the fuck is this a headline
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u/lovable_cube 10h ago
As a nurse, I look stuff up literally all the time. Doctors regularly ask me if something is within my scope and I text charge lol.
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u/in-duh-minusrex1 9h ago
That's why they say they doctors "practice" medicine. They learn as they go.
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u/AlternatePancakes 27m ago
You guys know that this is normal, right?
Do you think surgeons and medical professionals remember every procedure to 100% accuracy?
Its not uncommon for them to watch a video on how to do procedure before they do them, to make sure they don't fuck it up.
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u/YukeofDork 13h ago
TBF, a Dr would be able to look at it and either say “ oh yeah, I see, that makes sense” or “mmmmm no”.
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u/Fedie315 13h ago
This is totally normal. Doctors used to have to keep stacks of books of diagrams and how-to's for every rarely-performed procedure so they could reference and refresh when needed. Now, we have the Internet, and doctors have practiced and performed these procedures but it's great to have a quick refresher. That's why these videos exist in the first place.
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u/DoofusIdiot 13h ago
I have more than a couple stories of how I’m skeptical of doctors as I age, but…
Think of an ER doctor with patients coming in with one of 1,000 different issues. Doctors are trained on how to investigate and understand information needed to treat you.
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u/Teacupfancymouse 13h ago
Don't they always do this? That's why they ask to step out of the room lol
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u/pabmendez 13h ago
I don't have a problem with this.
Like my mechanic looking at a video. How to replace the timing belt. He has the skills to do it just needs The steps
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u/FoolhardyBastard 13h ago
Nurse here, we have tons of resources that we are encouraged to watch and review prior to doing a procedure we do not do routinely, this video is probably the hospitals own video that uses YouTube as a format, as it is accessible. It’s actually good practice. I wouldn’t want someone to confidently do the wrong thing for me, I’d rather they view the evidence based material first so they don’t miss a step.
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u/Occhrome 13h ago
It’s more of a refresher. I use to do this as a nurse.
Medical folks have the past experience and also understand how the body works so they know when they have to be extra careful and what to watch out for. It’s nothing at all like when a regular person watches YouTube.
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u/Public-Platypus2995 13h ago
I do this to fix shit around the house all the time. With like a 90% success rate. I’ve also done this to fix my SI joint issues, herniated discs, and sciatic nerve pain. Also with about 90% success. Information super highway was the point, right people?!
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u/AttitudeEquivalent73 12h ago
This is not abnormal (assuming the video was from a reputable source). Nobody knows everything about every issue you may have much less doctors who aren’t specialized. You consult coworkers, read articles/journals from appropriate sources, and watch videos to help you get extra knowledge or refresh on a topic so you can appropriately understand and treat the issue. Would you rather them just throw shit at the wall while wasting a shit ton of your money on stuff that was never gonna work until something sticks?
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u/kryotheory 12h ago
The difference between the doctor looking something up and someone who didn't go to medical school is the doctor will actually know how to use the information. You want a doctor that double checks themselves to make sure they give you the right treatment. You definitely don't want an arrogant doctor who thinks their education ended with their residency and they know everything now.
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u/IlIlllIIIIlIllllllll 12h ago
You're dumb if you want a doctor who doesnt look stuff up.
Signed, a doctor
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u/voldi4ever 10h ago
Doctor inspected me, couldnt figure out what is wrong. I asked him "Could it be hernia?" He didn't say anything, went to his laptop. Googled hernia. Looked at the pictures for 10 minutes. Then he said it could be hernia and left. I got charged $400. It wasn't hernia.
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u/Logical-Following525 2h ago
The difference between you and the doctor is he knows what he doesn't know and you don't know what you don't know. They often use big books to look stuf up in.
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u/Schneizilla 1h ago
my grandfather always said "there is no shame in not knowing something and looking it up, but there is shame in not knowing something but pretending you do!"
And especially with medicine, lots of things are so rare and I rather want my doctor looking it up, then just "giving it a shot".
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u/AccordingBridge9026 38m ago
Its called practicing medicine for a reason. It's impossible for a human to know everything all of the time. Id rather have my doctor look stuff up than just wing it wtf
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u/Rexxington 13h ago
I mean this is the main method doctors and etc. use to confirm or better understand treatment methods. Before they would consult a book, or just go at it with no prior knowledge or training. Its a good thing shes taking a moment to ensure she does whatever procedure she's about to do right.
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u/Different_Bridge_983 13h ago edited 13h ago
CSB: Years ago when I was preparing for university applications I did an internship at the local Casualty dept (Emergency Room) where I got to shadow the doctors going about their duties.
A bunch of times someone came in with something some doc hadn’t treated before and they’d go asking around to find a doc who had, and when they couldn’t there’d be a huddle as the doctors went through a book trying to figure out what the rash or whatever was most likely.
So this isn’t anything new…
/worst one was some dude came in with an iron filing stuck in his eye for a week (yes, this man had walked around for a week with an iron splinter in his eye before it occurred to him to seek medical attention), and the doc removed it but saw there was some left, then spent about two hours with tweezers trying to remove the rest before they asked a senior doctor, who realized there was basically a rust ring in this guys eye and the junior doc had been trying to tweezer out what was effectively an eyeball tattoo. Then the senior doc showed the junior one a machine specifically for examining eye injuries and we all took turns looking at this dudes eye through it.
Anyway, your doctors know a lot, but there’s a lot they don’t know, just they’ll never tell you that.
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u/vaders-burnt-tader 12h ago
Dr Hartman: Do you have any idea how expensive medical school is? Lois: No I don't. Dr Hartman: Well it's probably pretty expensive. Typed it out because I couldnt find the meme or gif.
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u/Proof-Equivalent8024 11h ago
Would you rather have a doc that doesn’t double check at all?
Professionals have been doing this since the very beginning
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u/Malawakatta 7h ago
There are a lot of doctors on YouTube who share videos of their surgeries and the techniques they use. A doctor checking YouTube isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
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